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Finci donirali svajcarcima jedan trejner Hawk Mk51 koji su ovi povukli iz upotrebe krajem prosle godine
Финляндия подарила Швейцарии истребитель
Citat:Минобороны Финляндии ответила согласием на просьбу швейцарской стороны подарить учебный истребитель Hawk Mk51. Воздушное судно было выведено из эксплуатации в конце 2016 года. Заполучить его в свою коллекцию очень хотел музей военной авиации Clin d’Ailes в Пейерне.
https://www.aex.ru/news/2017/5/26/170135/

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Evo ih opet....
Swiss MoD Looks to Revive Fighter Deal
Citat:The Swiss Ministry of Defense will this week take another step towards the replacement of its fighter aircraft fleet, which was suspended since 2014, when the Swiss people voted against buying 22 Saab JAS-39 Gripen fighters for the partial replacement of Northrop F-5Es in 2014.
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Four scenarios, four price tags
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/rele.....-deal.html

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Videh negde da CH RV planira da preuzme od REGA-e dva CL-604 Challenger, kako bi zamenili Beechcraft 1900D. A REGA ce kao zamenu za CL-604 da pazari 3 Challengera 650. Jer jbg, nije zdravstveno osiguranje tamo tako skupo.

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Sall ::Gripen menja F-5E/F, a nesto ce morati da zameni i F/A-18C/D...
Nemaju švajcarci toliko novaca za razbacivanje. Gripen bi trebao biti jedini lovac. Mogli bi iči i u nabavku lakog lovca/naprednog trenažera TA-50 koji bi menjao F-5 kao što to svi rade i onda posle isteka resurseva F-18 da nabave još još neki srednji lovac.

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Napravili studiju za 20 do 70 novih lovaca
Swiss Could Buy up to 70 New Combat Jets: Task Force
Citat: Switzerland could eventually be in the market for as many as 70 new fighter jets or as few as 20 under scenarios laid out on Tuesday by a defense ministry task force examining how to replace the neutral country's aging air force fleet.

The most expensive and powerful option would be to buy 55-70 aircraft and ground-based air defense weapons for an estimated 15 billion to 18 billion Swiss francs ($15.3-$18.4 billion), according to the report.

It did not say which aircraft the government should consider.

The least expensive option would be procuring 20 jets and accompanying ground-based air defense systems for 5 billion francs. Other options called for buying 40 or 30 new aircraft plus surface-to-air defense support.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2017-05.....task-force

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jazbar ::Sall ::Gripen menja F-5E/F, a nesto ce morati da zameni i F/A-18C/D...
Nemaju švajcarci toliko novaca za razbacivanje. Gripen bi trebao biti jedini lovac. Mogli bi iči i u nabavku lakog lovca/naprednog trenažera TA-50 koji bi menjao F-5 kao što to svi rade i onda posle isteka resurseva F-18 da nabave još još neki srednji lovac.

Nece biti. Vecina je glasala za opciju 3, a to je ono sto su hteli od pocetka. Ove opcije jedan i dva su tu samo da ne bude da je izabrana najskuplja.
Skoro sam siguran da Horneti nece biti zamenjeni Gripenima, kada za to dodje vreme. Svajcarci kao i svi pametni ljudi znaju da su potrebna 2 tipa borbenih aviona. Mislim da najvece sanse za zamenu Horneta imaju Eurofajter i Rafal, sa posebnim akcentom na Rafal. Pogotovo sto su Francuzi nabavili 20ak PC-21, uz mogucnost da sve Alfa Dzetove jednog dana zamene sa PC-21, ako procene da im je to ok.

-- Option 1: Replacement of present fighter inventory by 55 (possibly up to 70) new combat aircraft, replacement of current air-defense network with new system offering improved performance.
Estimated cost: 15 to 18 billion Swiss francs.
-- Option 2: Acquisition of 40 new combat aircraft and procurement of a new air-defense network.
Estimated cost: 9 billion Swiss francs.
-- Option 3: Acquisition of about 30 new fighters and service life extension of F-18 Hornet fighters until 2030, and significant improvement of the performance of the air-defense network.
Estimated cost: 8 to 8.5 billion Swiss francs.
-- Option 4: Acquisition of only 20 new fighters, service life extension of the F-18s and renewal of the current air-defense network.
Estimated cost: 5 billion Swiss francs.

The majority of the Expert Panel members (6) voted in favor of Option 3. Options 1 and 2 won two votes each, while as single panel member voted for Option 4.

The members of the Support Panel representing the main political parties voted for Option 3 (3 votes) with a single vote for Option 1.)

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Swiss fighter project obtains initial approval
Citat:Switzerland's Conseil national, the lower house of its Federal Assembly, has approved funding for the initial stage of an effort to replace its air force's Boeing F/A-18C/Ds.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/swiss-f.....al-438157/

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Svajcarci trenutno raspolazu sa oko 15ak letno sposobnih F-5E i 5 F-5F + oko 8 F-5E akro grupe Patrouille Suisse od 12, koliko ih je ofarbano u boje AG.

Avioni koji su se mogli videti u vazduhu u zadnjih par meseci su:
F-5E - 3005, 3015, 3030, 3033, 3036, 3038, 3044, 3065, 3068, 3073, 3074, 3077, 3092, 3094, 3095
F-5F - 3201, 3202, 3209, 3210, 3211
Patrouille Suisse (F-5E) - 3080, 3082, 3084, 3085, 3087, 3088, 3089, 3090,

Situacija nije sjajna. U naoruzanju se vodi kao da ih imaju 41 E + 12 F, sto znaci da je operativnost niska.

Do kraja ove godine ce ih verovatno biti jos manje, jer svajcarsko RV se povlaci iz Siona do kraja 2017 i to ce biti samo civilni aerodrom. Razlog povlacenja je smanjenje RVa, pa im nije potreban. U vojne svrhe ce se koristiti iskljucivo kao alternativni aerodrom.

Sto se tice Horneta, to je situacija totalno drugacija. Od 25 F-18C i 5 F-18D koji su u naoruzanju, u zadnja 3 meseca je letelo cak 20 C i 3 D, sto znaci da je operativnost 80% za F-18C i 60% za F-18D.
Ako nekome znace brojevi..
F-18C: 5001, 5002, 5004, 5005, 5008, 5009, 5010, 5011, 5012, 5013, 5014, 5015, 5016, 5017, 5018, 5019, 5020, 5021, 5023, 5026.
F-18D: 5232, 5234, 5236

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Modernizuju F/A-18 Hornet
US Approves New Upgrade for Swiss F-18C Fighters
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/rel.....hters.html

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Австрия и Швейцария совместно закупят истребители?
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2862225.html