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Rpg 29 ::Oprosti Sall mislim da je MKM br1,,SM br2
mki br 3 jedimo sto zadnja dva nose bram..,oniks
Ali ne nam koliko su stigli u uvodjenju u naoruzanje


Najbolji Su-30 je ruski Su-30SM, tek onda slijede MKM, MKA i MKI. Su-30SM ima bolji domači radar Bars-R a ne eksportni Bars-M. Ima domači IRST i sastav za samozaštitu u kojom jesu L-150 pastel RWR, SAP-518SM ometački kontejneri te domača navigacijska oprema, koja je bolja od exportne. RSBN je bolje precizan nego TACAN ili VOR/DME. A na kraju Su-30SM ima punu data link opremu sa novim IFDL, kakog ima i Su-35 i komunikacijama vazduh-zemlja. Exportni Su-30MKM/MKA/MKI nemaju IFDL. Indijski MKI ima jako lošu indijsku komunikacijsku opremu a data link ima samo sa komandnim punktom na zemlji. Su-30SM ima i bolje naoružanje sa domačim raketama i bombama a ono če se još poboljšati sa novima raketama/bombama Grom, krstarečim stealth raketama Kh-59MK2 i Kh-50, koje imaju domet do 1.500 km. veliku preciznošč ima i sa nevođenim bombama, što je dokazao u Siriji. Unapređeni Su-30SM1 sa snažnijim motorima 117S i radarom Bars biće daleko ispred ostalih Su-30. Između ruskog Su-30SM i ostalih Su-30MKM, MKA i MKI ja bi stavio kineski Su-30MKK/MK2 iako su na papiru manje napredni. Kinezi imaju bolju opremu i naoružanje i pune data link mogučnosti.



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Caesar hvala na ovako iscrpnom odgovoru
Znaci ipak sm br.1drugo mesto zauzima sigurno mkm/mka oprema iz juz.afrike,nemacka komunikacija dobar deo francuske elektronike
Bice zanimljivo kakvu degradaciju ima izvozni sme
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Elektronska oprema iz drugih zemalja je isto tako eksportna, što znači, da su MKM/MKA/MKI dosta degradirani u odnosu na ruski SM ili kineski MKK/MK2.

nirdeshak.com/read-blog/1325_mig-21_bison.html

Citat:Improvements on the baseline MiG-21 to make the Bison :

• Multi-functional coherent Doppler-pulse airborne radar "Kopyo" with slot antenna
• On-board digital computer
• Helmet-mounted target designato
• Double screen (HUD and CRT) display system
• Stores management system
• Inertial navigation system
• Air data computer system, digital
• Short range radio navigation system
• On-board radio command receiving equipmen
• New flare dispenser (26 mm 120 rounds)
• New electric power supply system, controlling and recording system
• Sextant's TOTEM RLG-INS with NSS-100P GPS embedded GPS receivers
• El-Op HUD, infrared search and track system (IRST) from Russia's URALs optical-mechanical plant
• Two Sextant MFD-55 LCD displays
• Radar Warning Receivers (RWR)
• New liquid air cooling system
• HOTAS (Hands On Throttle And Stick) controls
• Autopilot

Like the Su-30MKI, it has a mix of French, Israeli, Indian and Russian avionics equipment. It is claimed that the fighters are equivalent to any 4th generation fighter, with the ability to lock on to 8 different targets at once.


Su-30MKI ima isto kao i MiG-21 Bison i MiG-29UPG mješavinu elektronskih komponenata iz različitih zemalja. Svi imaju francusku navigacijsku opremu uključujuči GPS. Ali kot oborenog Abhinandana može se lako vidjeti, kako francuska navigacija nije tako dobra. Abhinandan nije znao tačno, gdje se nalazi i kad je prešao preko granice. Nisu znali ni oni na zemlji, gdje se ko nalazi. Indijski RWR Tarang nije dao opozorenja pilotu, da je gađan raketom SD-10 a Pakistanci su lako ometali indijsku komunikacijsku opremu, tako da Abhinandan nije imao ni glasovne veze sa komandom na zemlji. Indija sad hitno nabavlja izraelsku komunikacijsku opremu SDR za avione Su-30MKI, MiG-29 i Mirage-2000. Isto i kod Su-30MKI Tarang nije opozorio, da su gađani AMRAAMovima, a pilote su upozorili iz komande na zemlji. Indijski Su-30MKI je jako degradiran i tako najlošiji od svih Su-30. MKM i MKA imaju nešto veči deo ruske opreme ali još uvek koriste mix strane elektronske opreme, što znači degradaciju u odnosu na original. Ja bih ipak svrstio Kineske, Vietnamske i Venezuelske Su-30MK2 ispred MKM/MKA/MKI iako radar N001VEP nije toliko napredan kao Bars ali ima sličan domet, a ostala oprema je jednaka ili bolja i oni još imaju ruski IFDL za izmenjavanje slike i ciljeva u grupi i koordinaciju rada unutar grupe.

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Daju li Amerikanci da se na njihovim proizvodima tako mjesa oprema?

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Ali kot oborenog Abhinandana može se lako vidjeti, kako francuska navigacija nije tako dobra. Abhinandan nije znao tačno, gdje se nalazi i kad je prešao preko granice. Nisu znali ni oni na zemlji, gdje se ko nalazi. Indijski RWR Tarang nije dao opozorenja pilotu, da je gađan raketom SD-10 a Pakistanci su lako ometali indijsku komunikacijsku opremu, tako da Abhinandan nije imao ni glasovne veze sa komandom na zemlji. Indija sad hitno nabavlja izraelsku komunikacijsku opremu SDR za avione Su-30MKI, MiG-29 i Mirage-2000. Isto i kod Su-30MKI Tarang nije opozorio, da su gađani AMRAAMovima, a pilote su upozorili iz komande na zemlji.

Јел има неки извори за ово? Амраам може да се испали у TWS моду па ниједан RWR ти неће то детектовати сем кад глава ракете те захвати. То да су им јавили са земље је у рангу "Мирко пази метак. Хвала Славко, спасо си ме." Иц ракету такође неће детектовати али захват хоће. Индијци тврде да је задње што је пилот рекао да је селектовао Р73. Ово се коси са тим да је комуникација била блокирана а при том тај авион је био најдаље од свих.

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Мало летења изнад Крима.

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Malo se tu i pucalo, fali po jedna raketa ispod krila na sletanju

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Citat:New Delhi: “Turn cold, turn cold”, a young woman IAF controller sitting in a secure control room in Punjab shouted repeatedly, exactly a month ago. But Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman could not hear anything inside his MiG-21 Bison.

Not realising that he had crossed the Line of Control, Abhinandan locked on to an F-16 of the Pakistan Air Force and fired his R-73 air-to-air missile seconds before his plane was shot at. In a matter of seconds, both aircraft went tumbling down into Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.

What the woman officer was telling the Wing Commander was to abandon and return as he had crossed over, top sources in the Indian Air Force told ThePrint.

An analysis of the dogfight of 27 February by the IAF has revealed that Abhinandan could not hear the command being given by the officer. The IAF believes this could be because of radio jamming by Pakistan.

Sequence of events

Sources said that around 9:30 am, IAF flight controllers noticed that a large package of PAF aircraft had taken off in a matter of minutes. These aircraft, numbering about 24, included at least 11 F-16s, and got airborne in a span of 15 minutes.

Sources said more than half of them headed to the LoC, while a few remained along the international border.

While India’s Sukhoi Su-30s were on a Combat Air Patrol (CAP) in the Rajasthan sector, two Mirage 2000s were on CAP at the LoC.

The officer in question was sitting in the control room at the time, giving instructions and coordinating the response to the challenge thrown by the Pakistan Air Force. She realised that things could get difficult and immediately ordered the scampering of more Su-30s and MiG-21s, which took off from the Srinagar and Awantipur air bases.

She alerted the Indian pilots to the use of F-16s, which have better beyond visual range or BVR missiles than the Sukhois and the MiGs.

It was her alertness and instructions that allowed the Indian pilots to take preventive measures and escape the AMRAAM missiles fired by the F-16s.


timesnownews.com/india/article/iaf-to-.....ets/461569

Citat:New Delhi: The Indian Air Force (IAF) bombed Balakot on February 26 this year. The next day, it fought off a determined effort by the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to attack Indian army installations. During both battles, the IAF, when it came to safe communication, found itself deficient. And in future, it could lead to costly failures.

Immediately after Balakot, the IAF has decided to quickly buy Software Defined Radios (SDR), and integrate them with the aircraft fleets. This emergency purchase of SDRs from Israel will be for the Mirage-2000, MiG-29 and Sukhoi-30 fighters of the IAF.

The SDRs will ensure secure communication not just between fighters in the air, but also between fighters in the air and the ground installations and importantly between the fighters in the air and the AWACS (Airborne Warning and Control System) - the eye in the sky. If there is an attempt to jam, communication can shift to another frequency and continue.

Besides conversations, it will provide secure data linking. This means everyone will know who - whether it is the fighter pilot, the AWACS controllers, the ground plotters - is where. This will help in better "combat control."

"Whatever we were talking could have been heard," a senior official said about the Balakot operations and after. The radios will ensure no one can pick up our communication. And importantly, the data linking will ensure we know who is where."

A small number - about 400 - are being purchased, as is possible during emergency acquisitions. Once the SDRs arrive, it will ensure that for the IAF, silence will truly be golden.


trishulgroup.blogspot.com/2008/11/su-30mkis.....aring.html

Citat:3) As far as data links go, neither the Su-30MKI nor the Su-30MKM has the kind of Russia-origin airborne data links that are on board the Su-30MKK or Su-30MK2 or Su-27SMK. This is because the Su-30MKI and Su-30MKM are not required to share tactical air situation data with one another, but to exchange such data with AEW & C platforms. On the Su-30MKI the data links are of Israeli origin (from TADIRAN SpectraLink) and they will be operationalised only AFTER they are commissioned into service, which will happen only after the PHALCON AEW & C platforms are commissioned into service. This has nothing to do with OPSEC.

strategicfront.org/su-30mki-special-indian-air-force/

Citat:Indian Contribution in Su-30MKI:

The Su-30MKI is the fighter which contains the avionics and equipments from round the world not only Russian, French, South African and Israeli Customer Furnished Equipment (CFE), but also a substantial percentage of Indian developed and manufactured avionics.

Indian avionics have been received and acknowledged enthusiastically by the Russian principals.

The following are the components developed by Indian agencies:
•Mission Computer cum Display Processor – MC-486 and DP-30MK (Defence Avionics Research Establishment – DARE)
•Radar Computer – RC1 and RC2 (DARE)
•Tarang Mk2 Radar Warning Receiver (RWR) + High Accuracy Direction Finding Module (HADF) (DARE
•IFF-1410A – Identification Friend or Foe (IFF)
•Integrated Communication suite INCOM 1210A (HAL)
•Radar Altimeter – RAM-1701 (HAL)
•Programmable Signal Processor (PSP) – (LRDE)
•Multi Function Displays (MFD) – Samtel/DARE

The 32-bit Mission Computer performs mission-oriented computations, flight management, reconfiguration-cum-redundancy management and in-flight systems self-tests. In compliance with MIL-STD-1521 and 2167A standards, Ada language has been adopted for the mission computer’s software. The other DARE-developed product, the Tarang Mk-2 (Tranquil) radar warning receiver, is manufactured by state-owned BEL at its Bangalore facility.

These avionics equipment have also been certified for their airworthiness in meeting the demanding standards of Russian military aviation. The cumulative value of such indigenous avionic equipment is estimated to exceed Rs. 250 lakhs per aircraft. Since the core avionics were developed by a single agency (DRDO) – they have significant commonality of hardware and software amongst them using a modular approach to design. This obviously results in major cost and time savings in development; it also benefits the user in maintenance and spares inventories.

The DRDO has gone a step further and come out with a new design of the Core Avionics Computer (CAC) which can be used with a single module adaptation across many other aircraft platforms. Thus the CAC which is derived from the computers designed for the Su-30MKI will now be the centre piece of the avionics upgrades for the MiG-27 and Jaguar aircraft as well. The CAC was demonstrated by DRDO at the Aero India exhibition at Yelahanka and attracted a good deal of international attention. Taken together with the systems already developed indigenously for the LCA (such as the Digital Flight Control Computer and HUD), clearly Indian avionics have a significant export potential in the burgeoning global market for avionics modernisation.

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Упозорила пилоте да иду Ф16це па ови се дали у бежанију. Живо ме занима како зна који је који авион и зашто би избегавали Ф16. Па са ким би они хтели да се бију? Индијци свашта причају. Пакистанци показаше комплетно наоружање 21ца. Да не помињемо како су причали о свом бомбардовању а оно мућак.

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