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Ako se misli na T-72/M-84, ne. Ne dovodi svaki pogodak u skladište municije do eksplozije. Mnogo puta smo već pisali da je uslov za eksploziju i odletanje kupole, detonacija jednog ili više barutnih punjenja, koji će zatim izazvati lančanu reakciju i detonaciju ostalih barutnih punjenja. Ako kumulativni mlaz ne izazove detonaciju barutnog punjenja, ono će se samo zapaliti i izgarati. Da bi barutno punjenje detoniralo, kumulativni mlaz mora aktivirati inicijalnu kapislu barutnog punjenja.



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Napisano: 03 Apr 2016 16:10

Jedan popis friendly fire incidenata tokom pustinjske oluje, jos iz decembra 1991. A pazite sad

Citat:¾ On land, US ground units launched seventeen inadvertent attacks on American and British ground forces. These attacks killed eighty-one Americans and two Britons. These seventeen misguided attacks also destroyed twenty-seven US MlAl tanks and Bradley Fighting Vehicles--fully seventy-seven percent of the Army's materiel losses.

http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/1.....endly.aspx

Dopuna: 07 Apr 2016 21:34

Da dodam i ovde posto je postavljeno pitanje ne temi o vazdusnoj kampanji 1991.

http://www.mycity-military.com/Ostalo-3/Pustinjska.....l#p1823149

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Citat:
Friendly fire emerged as a major concern in the desert, in part because Army gunners were able to acquire targets at longer ranges than they were able to positively identify targets as friend or enemy. According to the Army, 23 Abrams were destroyed or damaged in the Persian Gulf area. Of the nine Abrams destroyed, seven were due to friendly fire, and two were intentionally destroyed to prevent capture after they became disabled. Similarly, of the 28 Bradleys destroyed or damaged, 20 were due to friendly fire. Moreover, weapon system capabilities were not optimized because the weapons’ ranges were greater than the sights’ ranges. Crews also noted problems with ineffective radios and suggested that a navigation system be installed in every Bradley and Abrams Army officials recognized the need for improvements in these areas (see app.III)


23 unistenih ili ostecenih ( spakovali su to zajedno), od toga 9 prijateljska vatra.

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Marinci ce da testiraju Trophhy na svojim M1A1 a izgleda ce i vojska na M1A2 i Strajkerima.

http://www.armyrecognition.com/april_2016_global_d.....04162.html

Citat:Specifically, the Marine Corps will test the Trophy APS system developed by Israeli defense firm RAFAEL and sold in the United States by DRS Technologies, Lt. Gen. Robert Walsh, deputy commandant of the Marine Corps for combat development and integration, told members of the Senate Armed Services subcommittee on seapower April 13.

“Working very closely with the Army to develop active protection systems, we’re going to go out and try to buy or lease some Trophy systems that are out there…and we’re going to put those on our M1A1 tanks, take that, use it, see how it works.”

Walsh’s naming Trophy was the first time senior service acquisition officials from either the Marine Corps or Army have mentioned a brand-name APS technology in public. The Army’s principal deputy to the assistant secretary for acquisition, logistics and technology Lt. Gen. Michael Williamson has said the service plans on putting four systems head-to-head in impending tests.

No program of record for an APS exists other than the Army’s modular active protection system (MAPS), which is a research and development effort to field a system in 10 years. Walsh echoed Army leadership in saying threats to ground vehicles are emerging faster than MAPS will field a suitable defense.

“It could take us a long time to develop active protection systems on vehicles,” Walsh said. “We could be here for a long time while the threat continues to move ahead of us.”

The Army plans to do the same on the Stryker and M1A2 Abrams tanks, Walsh said. Both services will test the Trophy system–and others–and “learn from that and see whether we buy that or something else,” Walsh said. “At least we’ve learned from it rather than slowly developing a technology over time,” he said.

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Toni :: Citat: Friendly fire emerged as a major concern in the desert, in part because Army gunners were able to acquire targets at longer ranges than they were able to positively identify targets as friend or enemy. According to the Army, 23 Abrams were destroyed or damaged in the Persian Gulf area. Of the nine Abrams destroyed, seven were due to friendly fire, and two were intentionally destroyed to prevent capture after they became disabled. Similarly, of the 28 Bradleys destroyed or damaged, 20 were due to friendly fire. Moreover, weapon system capabilities were not optimized because the weapons’ ranges were greater than the sights’ ranges. Crews also noted problems with ineffective radios and suggested that a navigation system be installed in every Bradley and Abrams Army officials recognized the need for improvements in these areas (see app.III)

23 unistenih ili ostecenih ( spakovali su to zajedno), od toga 9 prijateljska vatra.

Лоше си превео:

Укупно 23 оштећена и уништена Абрамса
- 9 уништених, 7 пријатељска ватра, 2 посада уништила оштећено возило.
- 14 оштећених

Али како смо већ говорили да су ове њихове статистике врло сумњиве и још више растегљиве, мислим да не треба трошити време на њих.

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Pa nemas drugu, niko drugi ne moze znati koliko su oni izgubili tenkova, samo oni...

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Toni problem je u tome što podatak o 9 uništenih i 14 oštećenih tenkova je podatak koji vređa inteligenciju jer je taj odnos apsolutnu nemoguć - pogotovo po njihovim kriterijumima šta je oštećeno a šta uništeno. Nikad, ponavljam nikad, u istorija ratova nije zabeležen slučaj da je odnos uništenih i oštećenih tenkova 9:14. Na 9 uništenih tenkova oni bi moralida imaju bar 50 do 60 oštećenih ili obrnuto na 14 oštećenih tenkova maksimalno 2 do 3 uništena.
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US Army Orders Laser-Protected Periscopes for Abrams

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