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Slike vazdušnog napada Izraelske avijacije na Bejrut

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ROCKAMKD ::So why is Hezbollah labeled as a "terrorist organization"-it's pure and simple, because it is a strong nationalist Lebanese force that refuses to bow to Israel or America or the Falangists.

Slazem se 100%

Moram priznati da me je iznenadila borbenost i sposobnost Hezbollah-a. To kazem kao neko koji nema bas mnogo simpatije prema muslimanskim organizacijama.


Citat:Evidence in border villages shows heavy price paid for limited incursion

Jonathan Steele in Marwahin
Monday August 7, 2006
The Guardian


It is perhaps the world's most dangerous road, snaking up and down through boulder-strewn hills and wadis along the Lebanese-Israeli border. By Israel's account, its forces are moving between four and six miles beyond it to take control of a long strip of Lebanese territory before the UN security council votes for a cessation of hostilities.
But reporters travelling along the border road on Saturday found few signs of an Israeli presence, let alone success. People in only one village had seen Israeli troops recently. Elsewhere, there was evidence of Israeli failures: burnt-out or crippled tanks. Despite the message of success Israel's generals and politicians are giving their public, the reality on the ground appeared mixed.



At the western end of the border road just inland from the headquarters of the UN peacekeeping mission in Lebanon (Unifil) at Naqura, Hizbullah fighters were launching Katysuha rockets from positions within three miles of Israel.
Scarred

Driving east through Aalma ech Chaab and Dhaira, reporters could see clusters of antennae and army huts on the Israeli side of the border but no sign of any incursion.

At Marwahin, where the road offers a clear view of the greenhouses and neat red-tiled roofs of the Israeli community of Zarit only 200 yards away, the ground was scarred with tank tracks. A broken metal towing cable lay on the ground, an apparent sign of mishap. Nearby were bits of caterpillar track. A mile further at the junction of the side-road to Debel a burnt-out Merkava tank was stuck in the trees, its cannon pointing limply downwards.

Here the border runs along the top of a hill where a heavily fortified Israeli base sits cheek by jowl alongside UN monitoring position 5-42, a collection of white trailers and a watchtower inside blast walls. The road to Debel was littered with more broken tracks and towing cables. Hizbullah's resistance had clearly made its mark.

Beyond the Debel turnoff, reporters could hear a fierce battle for the village of Aita ech Chaab. Israeli shells and tank rounds were pounding it and setting fire to bushes on the hillsides to deny Hizbullah fighters cover. It is the only place on the north-south border where Israel seemed to be trying to advance.

Israel has not sought to penetrate the next village of Rmeish, which has a Christian population of several hundred. The last portion of the border before it turns north towards Metulla -the current centre of the fighting - contains the towns of Bint Jbeil and Aitaroun, which Israeli forces tried to take in the first days of the war and then withdrew after losing nine men.

The trip along the border road became possible when Israel allowed a UN convoy to bring food aid to the isolated Christian village of Debel. This was the first access to border villages for 10 days.

With one white armoured personnel carrier in front and another at the back, three UN food lorries set off from Naqura. The thump of outgoing tank and artillery rounds provided a constant accompaniment from the Israeli side.

In a press car behind the convoy sat the Archbishop of Tyre, clad in a white cassock. The Israeli onslaught has hit Shia Muslim villages hardest because of suspected links with Hizbullah's guerrilla fighters, but many Christans have stayed, their houses intact but their supplies dwindling fast.

Control

"They have the dignity of mountain people. They don't want to live as refugees in a school in Beirut", said Archbishop Chucrallah Hajje, while French and Ghanaian troops unloaded food parcels outside the small church.

Before the convoy set off from UN headquarters, monitors said Israeli forces came in by day but pulled back at night, remaining a few hundred yards inside the border. As a claim to control territory this seemed less than convincing. Israeli troops were still being shot at from villages, the observers said.

The deepest Israeli presence inside Lebanon that the convoy encountered was at Jibbain, a Sunni village two miles from the border. The archbishop wanted to give aid here too, in part to show his concern was not only for bringing aid to Christians.

On Sunday Israeli commandos landed near Mansouri on the coast north of Naqoura, killing a Lebanese army intelligence official and wounding seven soldiers. The purpose may have been to squeeze the Hizbullah launch teams between Jibbain and Mansouri.

If so, it would confirm that, rather than an occupation of south Lebanon, the Israelis are going for limited gains.
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Yellow Pinky ::Hoces da kazes da su i Srbi braneci Kosovo i Metohiju od shiptara
hm... ali ti isti siptari su ziveli na Kosovu i bili su apsolutna vecina Smile kako su srbi onda branili kosovo od njih? Wink

a da Hezbolah, Hamas i slicne teroriste treba iskoreniti - treba! I bolje da to radi Izrael, nego da nam se, za npr. 10 godina, ta gamad razmili po Evropi!

Dopuna: 10 Avg 2006 9:11

Ron Jeremy ::Nemojte da ova tema kao i ona o Hezbolahu bude zaključana ako previše ode u politiku - molim pripazite !!!
hm... moderator bi definitivno trebao da zatvori ovu temu, jer se u njoj ponovo siri antisemitizam!

Rone, znas li nekog takvog moderatora?

Dopuna: 10 Avg 2006 9:20

CyberVid ::ROCKAMKD ::So why is Hezbollah labeled as a "terrorist organization"-it's pure and simple, because it is a strong nationalist Lebanese force that refuses to bow to Israel or America or the Falangists.
Slazem se 100%

ma, Hezbolah je organizacija pod direktnom kontrolom anti-ljudskih režima Irana i Sirije! Nema tu nikakvog "libanskog nacionalizma", niti u Libanu postoji nekakvo pretrano zajednicko poimanje nacije! (to je kao da je neko pre 20 godina rekao da je u SFRJ postojao "jugoslovenski nacionalizam"!)

uzgred, Sirija vecinom i ne priznaje pravo Libanu na postojanje, vec se cesto, "off-the-record" ta zemlja posmatra kao jedna sirijska provincija, a u Siriji se cesto u skolama i koriste karte na kojima se ne vidi jasna granica izmedju ovih dveju zemalja... a u skladu sa time je i bilo dugogodisnje sirijsko vojno prisustvo (okupacija?) Libana, koje je zavrseno pre par godina - mada, u Libanu je ostao sirijski verni saveznik, Hezbolah, preko koga Sirija i dalje upravlja Libanom!

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Pricajte sta hocete, ali ja sam _bio_ tamo. I vrlo dobro znam sta se desavalo i desava jos uvek. A to, ko je pod uticajem medija... pogledajte u ogledalo Wink Lepo je to sto mozete da citirate ovog i onog, CNN i ostale, ali koliko vas je bilo tamo?

Yellow Pinky ::@Sky
"Ne opravdavam toliko civilnih zrtava, al' da su zasluzili, zasluzili su."
Ajde shvatam ja da si relativno mlad i podlozan uticaju mass medija ali prouci malo istoriju pre nego sto iznosis ovako tvrde stavove....


Godine, tj. mladost nemaju veze s tim, vec iskustvo.

mihajlo34 ::
Ajde proveri ti to malo bolje. Hezbolah nije s namerom ubio jednog civila jos od pocetka 90-ih. Ove rakete sada su samo odgovor na bombardovanje Libanona. Hezbolah je teroristicka organizacija samo zato jer se bori protiv Izraela. Sto se pravog terorizma tice oni bi mogli puno toga da nauce od Hagane, grupe Stern, Irguna i Mosada ...

[b]"We Created Terror Among the Arabs"
The Deir Yassin Massacre
By WILLIAM MARTIN


Prvo, ocigledno je da nisi objektivan. Da znas ista o Izraelcima, i njihovoj veri, znao bi da Tora zabranjuje "fizichki kontakt" sa "necistim" ljudima, tj. muslimanske vere. A sto se tice upada u to selo, to je bio cin odmazde. Za sta? To ostavljam na tebi da se malo raspitas.

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Chekaj, Izrael ima pravo na odmazdu ?

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Chekaj, Izrael ima pravo na odmazdu ?

odmazdu? vise ima pravo na odbranu - Hezbolah ga napada sa teritorije susedne zemlje godinama... ko se ne bi branio???

uzgred, meni je zanimljivo da se libanska vojska (kakva god da je) uopste ne brani od napada Izraela... kao da je i Libancima dosadio Hezbolah i njihovo reketiranje privatnih prodavnica i firmi...

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Citat:hm... moderator bi definitivno trebao da zatvori ovu temu, jer se u njoj ponovo siri antisemitizam!

Hahahaha ...

Citat:A sto se tice upada u to selo, to je bio cin odmazde. Za sta? To ostavljam na tebi da se malo raspitas.

Verovatno znam o tome vise od tebe. Dobro, to je bila odmazda. Isto tako i arapska odmazda pre te odmazde je bila odmazda za neku drugu odmazdu. Ali, dobro. Poenta je da izraelski terorizam kao nije terorizam, a arapski jeste .... Ne, ide ... majku mu.

I da ne zaboravim da dodam. Bio sam u tim krajevima par godina, tako da ... Wink
Nego pogledajte ovo. Mislim da je veoma interesantno (za one koji znaju engleski):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8057032134.....&hl=en

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Postovanom godpodinu Ronu Jeremy-ju

Definicija Antisemitizma (uzeto iz Wikipedije)
"Anti-Semitism (alternatively spelled antisemitism) is hostility toward or prejudice against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group, which can range from individual hatred to institutionalized, violent persecution."

Ukoliko smatrate da smo prekrsili pravilnik foruma MyCity, da smo iznosili misljenja koja su uvredila i/ili povredila neku svetsku naciju i/ili nacionalnu manjinu republike Srbije onda vas molim da po svaku cenu ne samo zakljucate ovaj topic, vec da ga i obrisete i da vise puta formatirate mesto na disku koje je zauzimala ova rasprava...

Medjutim, molim vas, da ukoliko nije doslo do gore navedenog ne gusite slobodno razmisljanje jer je internet, izmedju ostalog, zbog toga stvoren.
Sem ukoliko ne volite da vam drugi govore sta da mislite u sto jako sumnjam...
hm... moderator bi definitivno trebao da zatvori ovu temu, jer se u njoj ponovo siri antisemitizam!
Molio bih vas da se izjasnite oko gore navedenog jer imam jos dosta da dodam na temu Izraelsko-Arapskog konflikta ali ako ce tema biti zakljucana i obrisana da ne gubim ni svoje ni vase vreme ....

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Za sad je još sve pod kontrolom, nema talibana sa Bin Ladenom na čelu Smile

Samo bez nervoze i vrežanja iznosite svoja mišljenja i sve će biti ok.

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A zashto je to antisemitizam ? Ja nisam rekao nishta uvredljivo za bilo koga.
Nisam rekao Jevreji su ovakvi, onakvi, nisam izneo nikakvu mrzhnju prema bilo kome, poziv na nasilje i sl., a shto ti na stvari ne gledash objektivno, to je tvoj problem. Kad se Arap raznese u sred busa, to je terorizam, jer, brate, ubija nevine civile, a kad Izrael upadne u Liban i u jednom danu ubije 60-oro dece, to je antiteroristichka akcija....

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