Japanski tender za nabavku novih aviona F-X

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Japanci su zvanicno poslali zahtev za RFI Lokidu za F-35, Boingu za Super Hornet i verovatno ce ucestvovati i EADS sa Eurofighterom.

Inace u cunamiju je osteceno/izgubljeno verovatno 18 F-2(vecinom dvosedi) a F-4 se polako povlace. Ne odustaje se ipak od finansiranja njihovog buduceg lovca ATDX

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rafale nije tu verovatno jer su francuzi umesani u atd-x...

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Rafala nemas nigde u Aziji.

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bio je proglasen za bolji u, ako se dobro secam, j.koreji i singapuru od f15, ali...

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Japan ipak mozda odustane od F-35,zbog velikog kasnjenja u programu,
tako da u igri onda mozda ostanu samo F/A-18 Super Hornet i
EF-2000 Typhoon.

Mislim da ako ovako bude bilo,da ce Ameri da im uglave Super Horneta.



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Teško da će uzeti evropski avion.

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Ja ne mogu da se slozim u vezi F-18SH. To je avion koji bas i ne odgovara Japanu jer u naoruzanju vec imaju F-15 koji je bolji od F-18.
Cak bi im najvise odgovaralo da nabave F-15SE i tako unificiraju flotu.

Obzirom da Japan ima nameru da proizvede avion V generacije, ne ide im u prilog da uzmu americki avion ciji zmaj pripada 3-oj tehnoloskoj generaciji. Ipak je Eurofighter znatno moderniji avion, nije sve u elektronici koju F-18E/F poseduje. Japan je i pored svih nesreca koje su ga zadesile, veoma bogata zemlja, mogu oni sebi da priuste Typhoon. Pretpostavljam da bi trazili da se deo aviona sklapa kod njih, kao i da se ugradjuje domaca oprema i komponente, sto Eurofighter konzorcijum moze da ispuni bez problema. USA politika prema Japanu uvek je bila da im isporuce oruzje sto starije generacije, kako bi ih drzali na "uzici".

Japan drzi Francuze kao keca u rukavu, jer im Dassault pruza odredjenu podrsku oko projekta aviona V generacije (maketa aviona ATD-X je vec bila u Francuskoj, gde su obavljena testiranja radarskog odraza same konstrukcije).
Znaci: aktivno igraju sa USA i stavljaju im do znanja da imaju alternativu - Evropu, a sa druge strane rade na svom projektu, zajedno sa Francuzima.

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Napisano: 20 Jun 2011 21:00

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Citat:Dassault declined to answer the japan's RFQ/RFI because they are convinced that the Final choice will be american, no matter what. "We don't want to spend money to serve as a rabbit for the USA" said Edelstenne.

Dopuna: 30 Jun 2011 17:16

Citat:According to Tokyo's mid-term defence programme for the years 2011-15, the Japan Air Self-Defence Force has initial plans to procure 12 aircraft, with the final number yet to be determined. At a media briefing at the Paris air show, however, Boeing said the F-X requirement is for 42 aircraft.

Dopuna: 07 Jul 2011 21:25

Nema zezanja, otisla kompletna ekipa.



Press Release – Eurofighter Working to Strengthen Strategic Partnership with Japan

Citat:Tokyo, Japan - Reflecting the strong commitment to deepen the strategic partnership with Japan, the Supervisory Board of Eurofighter GmbH will for the first time hold a board meeting in Tokyo. Senior executives from Eurofighter partner companies (BAE Systems, Alenia Aeronautica, and Cassidian in Spain and Germany) are visiting Japan from 5 July to 8 July to discuss the status of the Eurofighter Typhoon F-X campaign and strategic next steps, and to hold talks with Ambassadors of the four consortium member-nations – the U.K., Germany, Italy and Spain.

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Lockheed Stealth Jet May Win Japan Deal

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Citat:They don’t want to say it out loud, but here’s what Boeing and Lockheed are thinking right now: “Not again!”

According to a report this week in the Financial Times, Japan says it would be open to choosing the Eurofighter Typhoon as its new front-line fighter jet, setting up a possible three-way battle between it, Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornet and Lockheed’s F-35 Lightning II.

This would be the second time in recent history that American defense giants have battled Europe for a major Asian opportunity, after India’s Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft. And as we all remember, that program did not end well for the Americans. But India is India, and this is Japan — America’s staunchest Asian ally, right? They buy stuff from the U.S. all the time, so this should be a lock for either Big B or Lockheed, right?
No — not according to the FT’s Mure Dickie, who wrote this:

In an interview with the FT, [new Defense Minister Yasuo] Ichikawa said Japan’s alliance with the US would not be a “major criterion” in deciding between the Eurofighter Typhoon and US rivals Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornet and Lockheed’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

After years of delay, Tokyo is now set to decide before the end of December on the purchase of around 42 fighters, a deal estimated to be worth more than $6bn and that could have far-reaching implications for the competing aircraft.

Analysts have in the past generally assumed that Tokyo’s close military alliance with Washington and post-war practice of relying almost exclusively on the US for imports of advanced weapon systems meant Eurofighter had little chance of winning the deal. However, Washington’s decision not to allow Japan to buy Lockheed’s stealthy and highly capable F-22 – Tokyo’s favoured option – appears to have opened an unprecedented opportunity for the Eurofighter consortium.



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