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Švajcarska vojska "prikriveni tigar, skriveni zmaj "

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jazbar ::Ni u jednom ratu utvrđene linije i bunkerijada nije imala gotovo nikakvog učinka.

Naravno ali samo u slucaju pasivne odbrane ,Aktivna odbrana je vec nesto drugo .Uz to u danasnja vremena ide i ona vec poznata vazdusna( sad vec vazd.- kosmicka ) dominacija a s obzirom da je Svica jako mala ,teritorijalno manja i od BiH pitanje bi bilo odbrane VaP.Njima manjkaju raketni sistemi PVO veceg dometa ( po daljini i visini ) ali opet imaju tu neku racunicu .


Don't Mess With Switzerland

Citat:To the world's most formidable natural defenses, the Swiss have added F/A-18 Hornets and a new slant on neutrality.

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Ako već zalazimo u oblast šbbkbb, teško da će ih iko napasti. A oni, koliko sam čitao o njima, i ne planiraju "Mažino liniju" , već pre odbranu utvrdjenih rejona. Imaju i ofanzivnu komponentu. A to je najbolji sistem u njihovim brdima.

Uostalom, u svetskoj podeli poslova, oni su dobili da prave satove i čokoladu, gaje ljubičaste krave, čuvaju "naše" pare i da ne ratuju.



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Oni samo utvrđuju dominantne tačke kao i svi, samo temelnije. Svaka eventualna vojska u nastupanju uzbrdo će se suočiti sa bočnim udarima dobro naoružanih seljana.
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ljubičaste krave preferiraju Austrijanci i Švabovi. Švajcarci više vole

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Meni je svejedno da li se gaje ljubičaste krave, crvene golubice ili mrmot zamotava čokoladu. Za to su veći stručnjaci moji unuci.

Inače, kako Šviceri izgledaju, ne može se o njima govoriti kao o naoružanim seljacima.Nego kao o vojsci. Uostalom, samo 10% stanovništva kod njih su zaista seljaci.

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Armee 95 (od 1. januara 1995 do 31. decembra 2003)

U odnosu na Armee 61, novi koncept smanjio je oružane snage za trećinu (400.000). Kasnije na 360.000. Struktura je ostala ista. Koncept nikada u potpunosti nije sproveden i nikada u potpunosti operativan.

MTS na nad 1.januara 1995

372 Panzer 68 und 88
370 Panzer 87 Leo 2
1350 oklopnih transportera M113 i familije M113
cirka 560 samohodnih haubica M109
zirka 220 vučenih haubica 105mm
zirka 1800 minobacača 81 i 120mm
zirka 300 lovaca tenkova TOW-Piranha
zirka 2700 vođenih PT raketnih sistema BB77
zirka 5000 RBR Raketenrohre 8,3 cm
zirka 8000 RBR Panzerfaust 3
zirka 1000 PAA topova 20 mm i 35 mm
zirka 60 PVO raketnih sistema Rapier
zirka 1100 7,5-cm- mitraljeza 51
102 lovca Tiger F-5 E/F
29 presretača Mirage III S
18 izviđača Mirage III RS
72 helikoptera Alouette III
15 transportnih helikoptera Super Puma
zirka 17 Pilatus Turboporter
2 Lear-Jet
38 Pilatus PC-7
12 Pilatus PC-9
4 Mirage III BS/DS
19 mlaznih trenažera Hawk

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Sinoć sam o ovoj temi razgovarao sa prijateljem rođenim polu Portugalcem po ocu a po majci Švajcarac.
Čuo sam da mu je otac sve do kraja 80ih kod kuće dugovao pušku i na zborište je odlazio o svom trošku kao i delu ispaljene municije na kondicioniranju do dva puta godišnje.
Ko je želeo više da vežba taj bi još doplaćivao za utrošenu municiju.
Te trenaže su isključivo imali vikendima i tako su se za dan dva okupljale ratne jedinice i družile a i vežbale.
Svako je imao svoje ratne zadatke na pravcima dejstva očekujućeg nadiranja neprijatelja.
Potvrdio mi je da je i sam kao dete a kasnije i kao mladić u toku planinarenja video a i posetio mnoge bunkere koji su otvoreni za posetioce.
Takođe mi je objasnio i neke od slika koje je Kljift okačio.
Ima i simpatično prezime De Sossa.
Oženjen je našom meštankom Sosom kao da mu je suđeno po prezimenu a upoznali su se u Švajcarskoj gde su oboje rođeni i odrasli a imaju i njihova i naša državljanstva..

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U Svici inace cesto vode debate o OS ,kakve im OS ustvari trebaju ,kakva ce im biti buducnost, izazovi i iskustva .Na tom polju se sukobljavaju razlicite politicke opcije ( partije i grupacije ) .

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Swiss Army Loses Its Bearings

Citat:Should Switzerland maintain a small professional army, or continue to expect all male citizens to serve? Politicians disagree over possible threats to the country

Citat:Defence Minister Ueli Maurer of the rightwing Swiss People’s Party said in spring 2009 that he wanted to make the Swiss army “the best in the world”.
But reality soon caught up with him. A decision about the procurement of new fighter jets has been postponed until after 2015, despite the fact that the air force has been warning repeatedly that without the new planes Switzerland’s sovereignty over its airspace cannot be guaranteed.


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Pa dobro demokratija je tamo na glasu i kako narod tj vecina kaze ( glasa ) tako ce i da bude

Neki primeri referenduma kako onih vaznih za OS tako i nekih opstih politickih i drustvenih .

DEMOCRACY IN ACTION? 10 Weird Examples Of The Swiss Referendum System In Action

Citat:Switzerland is the only country in Europe that practices direct democracy: citizens get to vote on important changes to the constitution, rather than leaving it up to the politicians and government. What's more, citizens can even propose constitutional amendments themselves, which are then voted on by the rest of the country.

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Kako su odbili ulazak u EU, yako će podržati dosadašnje ustrojstvo OS.

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Systeme radar Florako suisse
The FLORAKO System entered operational service on Feb. 2, 2004, after
successfully completing final tests and operating in parallel alongside the
old FLORIDA air defense system. FLORAKO is an all-new system comprising Master surveillance radars, a data and communication system, a new air picture generation and airspace management system, and new control Air Command and Control Center.
This capability gives the Swiss air forces and Skyguide, the service
providers responsible for military air safety, a modern system for monitoring airspace to meet increased civil and military air navigation requirements.






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35mm A/A Gun 63/90
MAIN FEATURES
Automatic reloaders which make it possible to feed and fire all the ammunition available on the gun without manual intervention
Computer controlled Gun-King sighting system for 3-Dimensional target tracking with laser range finder
Optimized Oerlikon 35mm type KDC automatic cannon with breech recoil brake, rate of attenuation and firing pin lock
Weapon cover with built in automatic breech block lubrication
Power supply system integrated with the gun
1 person gun operation
Large supply of ready to fire ammunition on gun (280 rounds)
Integrated full camouflage available as an option
TECHNICAL DATA
Gun - Calibre - 35mm
Rate of Fire - 2 x 550 = 1100 rounds/min
Muzzle Velocity - 1175 m/s
Barrel Length (90 cal) - 3150 mm
Weight w/ammunition - 7700 kg
Weight w/o ammunition - 7250 kg
GUN-KING 3-D SIGHT SYSTEM
Periscope - Enlargement - 8x
Periscope - Field of Vision - 8 deg.
Laser - range - 4km
Digital Microcomputer (max hit range) - 4 km
AMMUNITION
Types - HEI, HEI-T, HEI-P, SAPHEI-T, TP, TP-T
Mass of round - approx 1562 g
Mass of projectile - approx 550 g
Length of round - approx 387 mm


Lightweight surface to air guided missile system Stinger
The SAM system Stinger is a lightweight, man portable and shoulder-fired weapon system. The missile is equipped with a rotating passive infrared seeker head and applies the process of self-target-seeking anti aircraft guided missiles ("fire and forget").

The weapon system consists of:
missile (launch tube with sight and guided missile)
gripstock with IFF antenna
battery / cooling unit
IFF- interrogator

Guidance system: proportional navigation
Operational range: classified
Velocity: supersonic
Ignitor: impact
Weight: 15.7 kg (without IFF interrogator)


Mobile surface to air Missile System Rapier
The Rapier Missile System consist of the following main components:
launcher with a surveillance radar (housed under a radome), the devices for the electronical identification friend/foe, a command transmitter, a digital computer and 4 launcher beams as facilities to launch missiles.
Surveillance radar:
Detection range 11.5 km
Missile:
Operational range approx 7.0 km
Operational altitude up at least 3.0 km
Weight: 44.0 kg
Guidance system and intercepting principle command guidance with differential angle tracking; interception based on a direct hit


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Bloodhound se drži isto kao i Dvina. Teško ga je otpisati.

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