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A jooooj kad bi odgovorio na konkretno pitanje,procitaj i drugi moj post. http://www.mycity-military.com/Ostalo/Amerika-Bliski-istok_30.html#910805
Gledaj ,mene interesuje tehnika na konkretno pitanje dobijem neki izlizani odgovor vidjen 100 puta.
Osnovna verzija S-300 se ni ne prodaje nego novije verzije,SSSR vise nema....
Alzir ,Indzonezija,Libija narucili S-300PMU2.Venecuela pregovara a Saudijska Arabija koja je maltene satelit Amerike, pregovara oko S-400....
Ok, da ti ne dajem "izlizane" odgovore (istorijska desavanja u vise puta) evo jedan clanak iz ruskog casopisa, iz 2008 i stanja sa ruskom namjenskom industrijom i problemima, nije mi cilj da se natezem nego da ukazem na cinjenice koje se svjesno stalno presucuju...I ja bih da imamo konstruktivan dijalog, tesko nesto sa takvim pristupom...
izvinjavam se sto je text na engleskom govori i o uspjehu i o problemima namjenske industrije:
Samo trosimo vrijeme na ovo kako rusi svasta nude...ali niko ne dobija jos nista od njih (Npr Sirijski Mig 31E)...Indija sta god je od njih kupila pravac salje za izrael, od Awacs-a do suhoja, itd itd...
Rejects-Making Contract
The late years have been rather successful in financial terms for our high-tech defense industry. The volume of export of weapons totaled $7 bn last year. The new multi-billion contracts were signed with Algeria, Venezuela, Indonesia, India and other countries, with an active support from the Kremlin and President Vladimir Putin in person. The stock of orders (signed contracts) for arms export has reached $25 bn.
The domestic defense state order for buying, modernization and development of the new military machinery has exceeded $ 10 bn a year. The state program was approved up to 2015 with the budget of 5 trillions rubles. The demand for civil production by military industrial complex has also been increasing. So the future seemed to be radiant. However, rapid growth of solvent demand has revealed domestic problems and imbalance in this non-reformed post-soviet branch of industry, causing a serious crisis.
Last year Russia announced officially it wouldn’t be able to perform a contract concluded with China in 2005 for 34 items of IL-76, military-transport aircraft. The contract will not be completed either in terms of price, or dates, or number of the aircraft supplied.
In August it became known that the contract for $1.4 bn concluded with India in 2004 for reequipping aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov, that was supposed to be put in operation in 2008, would not be completed either. Now the Indians are required extra $1.5 bn and are promised the delivery to be done in 2013 at best. Vladimir Pastukhov, the general director of the largest shipbuilding plant Sevmash, based in the city of Severodvinsk, was just dismissed last summer.
The flow of scandals and claims is increasing. It has become known that Sevmash failed to execute the contract with a Norwegian firm for building tankers. Algeria required that Russia take back 15 delivered Mig-29 SMT, pleading to poor quality of single components and assemblies, part of which had turned out to be used. India refused accepting 5 anti-submarine IL-38 aircraft specially equipped with searching-aiming system “Sea Serpent”. Indians have also decided to write off the soviet naval fighting aircraft Tu-142 (the naval variant of the strategic Tu-95). Another incident was that India refused accepting the modernized soviet submarine “Sinduvijai” (“Kilo” in NATO’s classification), after during testing in the Barents Sea the new cruise missiles Club-C failed to hit the mark.
Foreign customers have possibilities to exercise a serious pressure over our military and industrial complex. After the scandal with IL-76, China does not conclude new contracts with Russia. Having assembled 95 licensed fighters Su-27SK, they refused purchasing other 105 sets under the contract of 1995, pleading to technical backwardness of the Russian aircraft. During last two months, as if in revenge, India concluded the contracts with the USA totaling to $4 bn for delivery of 8 anti-submarine P-8i’s assembled on the base of the civil Boeing 737 and 12 military-transport aircraft C-130J. Of course, Russia can continue supplies to the regime of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela and to the rogue countries like Iran and Syria, but it’s getting more and more difficult working in the competitive markets.
Domestic military customers, unlikely to the foreign ones, have no other choice. The growth of financial volume of the defense orders has not led to growth of the volumes of the acquired machinery since 2000, as the prices were growing in parallel. Uncontrollable spending of the budget means is much easier in the domestic military market, as the military purchases are classified completely to be top secret: the community is not informed about the full range of the purchased machinery. There are no official data about purchasing prices, and there are no lists published of programmes for development of the new equipment with indication of the costs. As a result, up to $50 bn has been spent since 2000, and the Air Force, for example, got only 2 new bombers Su-34 and 2 new military helicopters Mi-28N. Incidentally, those aircraft are still running in in the centers of retraining of the flight personnel.
The number of the new purchased intercontinental ballistic missiles Topol-M last year was less than it was at Boris Yeltsin. The price of the new Topol-M has increased many times and there is no sense to produce more missiles, as there are no new launching sets. From time to time it is reported, for example, that a “new” strategic supersonic Tu-160 is made. But to tell the truth, it’s just the frame with installed re-equipped soviet components made at Kazan aviation plant that is shown as the “new Russian aircraft”. Our militaries are still forbidden to buy modern western weapons, though, our special services have been doing it, enjoying their privileged position.
A certain part of our military and industrial complex has been doing well, assembling the machinery for export on the soviet base. Sometimes the materiel was just re-painted and the self-cost of such a “production” was just a few percent of the sale price. The major problem was to sign the contract and to share the kickback with the representatives of the foreign customers and with domestic higher-ups.
Today the soviet backlog is decreasing and obsolescent, falling behind the world progress for decades. Fitting out is also poor, and there is a lack of well-trained and disciplined soviet-type workers. No wonder that Sevmash fail to fulfill its contracts, military and civil ones. Besides, the management of our military and industrial complex still has a soviet habit of landing the contract by every possible means and further requiring additional budgeting saying that otherwise the whole work would fail.
Pavel Felgengauer
observer of the Novaya Gazeta
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