Rat Iran - Izrael 2024-2025 godina

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Gargamel008 ::Sad kad kolega pomenu otvore, ja da sam na mestu Iranaca napravio bih 100 tih "otvora" i kao pristupnih puteva, parkirao par kamiona, pa neka se cesu gde je pravi ulaz u bunker. I brate kopaj bunker na 150m ako treba, vidis da ce uvek da ti ih gadjaju. S tim sto je moje misljenje da oni nisu ni ogrebali sinoc.
Njihova sreca pa nisi na njihovom mestu.U prethodnom postu si spomenuo coveku koji ovde pise dvanest godina da trabunja,sto je prilicno arogantno.Iran je razrusena ekonomija bas zbog tih silnih "kopanja" i teznji da dodje do NO. I ovo sada nije prvo tamburanje od strane IDF kada su te teznje u pitnaju.Opteretices maksimalno ekonomiju,utrositi milijarde dolara kopajuci rupe ispod zemlje,i dodju baje i sve ti razlupaju za nedelju dana.Ukopaj 500m ispod povrsine pobice ti kompletan naucni tim,i opet ce pronaci nacin da te osakate.Mastoviti su,imaju sredstva i znanje.A onaj ko veruje da ce ga "dublja" rupa zastiti samo ce imati dublji grob.
Jedini nacin da se osiguras od lesinara je stratesko saveznistvo koje Iran nema.Pre kopanja treba se bolje zapitati zasto ne postoji ni jedan vojni savez izvan NATO i SAD ? Da postoji odbrambeni savez iza Irana,ne bi bilo potrebe za tim siljnim kopanjima. To je razlog zasto BRIKs ne treba uzimati ozbiljno,poluamaterski fudbalski klub koji bi da ucestvuje u Ligi Sampiona

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Zvone ::Ja sam 15 godina radio na proboju tunela. Pokusao sam povrsno pronac slike krajolika, ali bezuspjesno.
Ako planina nije neka stjenska masa koja se da noktima ceprkat, sumnjam da su penetritali 50m duboko.
Mada oni deklariraju da mogu probit 60m stjenske mase, ja u to ne vjerujem.
Skandinavski granit, nema sanse vise od 15- 20m da ga bace neznam odakle (mozda sam puno i rekao), Dinaridski vapnenac, zbog rasjeda nesto doblje...ali isto ne vjerujem, 60m jedino pjesak, zemlja.
Dakle, po meni je minimalna sansa da su nesto nepovratno unistili.
Moje misljenje je da ce ameri nastavit navaljivat, jer nista s ovim nije rijeseno.
Nisam strucnjak iz geologije, osim nekog bazicnog znanja, ali po boji bih rekao da je ovo bazalt, ili neka druga vrsta magmatskih stena. Znaci, prilicno visoke tvrdoce.
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Kako je tekla akcija. Transkript brifinga nacelnika Joint chief of Staff US Army generala Dan Caine. Pustam na engleskom da ne upropastim detalje u prevodu

Citat:At midnight Friday into Saturday morning, a large B-2 strike package comprised of bombers launched from the continental United States. As part of a plan to maintain tactical surprise, part of the package, proceeded to the west and into the Pacific as a decoy. A deception effort known only to an extremely small number of planners and key leaders here in Washington and in Tampa. The main strike package comprised of seven B-2 Spirit bombers, each with two crew members, proceeded quietly to the east with minimal communications. Throughout the 18-hour flight into the target area, the aircraft completed multiple in-flight refuelings. Once over land, the B-2s linked up with escort and support aircraft in a complex, tightly timed maneuver requiring exact synchronization across multiple platforms in a narrow piece of airspace, all done with minimal communications.

This type of integration is exactly what our Joint Force does better than anyone else in the world. At approximately 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time last night, and just prior to the strike package entering Iran, a U.S. submarine in the Central Command Area of Responsibility launched more than two dozen Tomahawk land attack cruise missiles against key surface infrastructure targets at Esfahan. As the Operation Midnight Hammer strike package entered Iranian airspace, the U.S. employed several deception tactics, including decoys as the fourth and fifth generation aircraft pushed out in front of the strike package at high altitude and high speed, sweeping in front of the package for enemy fighters and surface to air missile.

The strike package was supported by U.S. Strategic Command, U.S. Transportation Command, U.S. Cyber Command, U.S. Space Command, U.S. Space Force and U.S. European command. As the strike package approached Fordow and Natanz, the U.S. protection package employed high speed suppression weapons to ensure safe passage of the strike package with fighter assets employing preemptive suppressing fires against any potential Iranian surface to air threats.

We are currently unaware of any shots fired at the U.S. strike package on the way in. At approximately 6:40 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, 2:10 a.m. Iran time, the lead B-2 dropped two GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator weapons on the first of several aim points at Fordow. As the President stated last night, the remaining bombers then hit their targets as well, with a total of 14 MOPs dropped against two nuclear target areas. All three Iranian nuclear infrastructure targets were struck between 6:40 p.m. and 7:05 p.m. Eastern time again. That's about 2:10 in the morning, local time in Iran. With the Tomahawk missiles being the last to strike at Esfahan to ensure we retain the element of surprise throughout the operation. Following weapons release, the Midnight Hammer strike, package exited Iranian airspace, and the package began its return home. We are unaware of any shots fired at the package on the way out.

Iran's fighters did not fly, and it appears that Iran's surface to air missile systems did not see us. Throughout the mission, we retained the element of surprise. In total, U.S. forces employed approximately 75 precision guided weapons during this operation. This included, like the president stated last night, 14 30,000-pound GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrators, marking the first ever operational use of this weapon.

I know that battle damage is of great interest. Final battle damage will take some time, but initial battle damage assessments indicate that all three sites sustained extremely severe damage and destruction. More than 125 U.S. aircraft participated in this mission, including B-2 stealth bombers, multiple flights of fourth and fifth generation fighters, dozens and dozens of air refueling tankers, a guided missile submarine, and a full array of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance aircraft, as well as hundreds of maintenance and operational professionals.

As the secretary said, this was the largest B-2 operational strike in U.S. history, and the second longest B-2 mission ever flown, exceeded only by those in the days following 9/11. Well prior to the strike, General Kurilla elevated force protection measures across the region, especially in Iraq, Syria and the Gulf. Our forces remain on high alert and are fully postured to respond to any Iranian retaliation or proxy attacks, which would be an incredibly poor choice. We will defend ourselves the safety of our service members and civilians remains our highest priority.

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@strelac07 Ja nekom rekao da "trabunja"? Nije lepo iznositi neistine

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Nisam strucnjak iz geologije, osim nekog bazicnog znanja, ali po boji bih rekao da je ovo bazalt, ili neka druga vrsta magmatskih stena. Znaci, prilicno visoke tvrdoce.
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Navodno je granit.

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Granit je vrsta magmatske stene

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strelac07 ::Da postoji odbrambeni savez iza Irana,ne bi bilo potrebe za tim siljnim kopanjima. To je razlog zasto BRIKs ne treba uzimati ozbiljno,poluamaterski fudbalski klub koji bi da ucestvuje u Ligi Sampiona

Samo da podsjetim da BRIKS nije odbrambeni savez nego interesna grupa drzava, nesto kao G7 ili G20. I BRIKS nije izvrsna organizacija, nema izvrsnih ovlascenja niti izvrsnih tijela, bave se organiziranjem saradnje na strateskom nivou izmedju drzava clanica, kroz platforme i tijela i inicijative.

Znaci, ne igraju fudbal, nego sah.

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Davnih dana je Mosad dosao do planova ukopanih postojenja. Tacno su Jenkiji znali gde se sta nalazi. Mislim da bas nisu uspeli da uniste mete, onesbosobe da, ali tesko da su unistili.

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Stičem utisak da neki članovi foruma mnogo podcenjuju Izrael.

Svi ste zaboravili da su među tvorcima nuklearne fizike i kvantne mehanike, neki istaknuti fizičari bli jevrejskog porekla - Albert Ajnštajn, Nils Bor, David Bohm. A među kreatorima američke atomske bombe (a i hidrogenske) - Robert Openhajmer i Edvard Teler sa mnogim drugima.

Jevreji su narod koji ima tradiciju visokog obrazovanja i načnog istraživanja, plus svi znamo koliko im je jaka kapitalističko-finansijska elita i zbog podugačke istorije progonstva i represalija prema njima, izraženu sklonost ka organizovanju ispod žita. Njihova snaga je u znanju i organizovanju, tako da nemojte da vas čudi što im drugi "pomažu".

Ja od samog početka tvrdim da je ovo izraelski rat i da se Amerika ravna po izraelskim potrebama a ne obrnuto. Bombardovaće Iran sve dok izraelski generali i njihovi eksperti ne procene da je Teheran (ma ko tamo bio na vlasti) u ekonomsko-tehnološkom smislu vraćen 20 godina unazad.

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VladimirV ::Stičem utisak da neki članovi foruma mnogo podcenjuju Izrael.

Svi ste zaboravili da su među tvorcima nuklearne fizike i kvantne mehanike, neki istaknuti fizičari bli jevrejskog porekla - Albert Ajnštajn, Nils Bor, David Bohm. A među kreatorima američke atomske bombe (a i hidrogenske) - Robert Openhajmer i Edvard Teler sa mnogim drugima.

Jevreji su narod koji ima tradiciju visokog obrazovanja i načnog istraživanja, plus svi znamo koliko im je jaka kapitalističko-finansijska elita i zbog podugačke istorije progonstva i represalija prema njima, izraženu sklonost ka organizovanju ispod žita. Njihova snaga je u znanju i organizovanju, tako da nemojte da vas čudi što im drugi "pomažu".

Ja od samog početka tvrdim da je ovo izraelski rat i da se Amerika ravna po izraelskim potrebama a ne obrnuto. Bombardovaće Iran sve dok izraelski generali i njihovi eksperti ne procene da je Iran u ekonomsko-tehnološkom smislu vraćen 20 godina unazad.

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