Specijalna vojna operacija u Ukrajini, 2025. komentari

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Ajde da ne zaboravimo ni Lukasenka danas na konferenciji za stampu. Pametne rijeci, samo nema ko da slusa u Kijevu.

Citat:„U situaciji kada je sa Zelenskim obrisan pod u Beloj kući i bukvalno svuda drugde, trebalo bi da koristi glavu“, rekao je Lukasenko. „Tri slovenska naroda su oduvek živela normalno. Sedite i dogovorite se. Sačekajte pa ćete videti, niko neće pomoći Ukrajini. Da li su Amerikanci na početku rata pokrenuli pitanje retkih zemnih metala? Ne, ali sada jesu. Zelenski je izgleda bio u pravu – tada nisu o tome pričali. Ali će sad ipak morati da ispostuju to.

"Uzeće i cernozem i retke zemlje, a ako Bog da, neće odneti i sve ostalo. Dakle, on će se ipak vratiti nazad ovde, a ako ne on, onda novi, drugačiji predsednik, i oslanjaće se na naše unutrašnje snage. Neko hoće da se ubijamo medju sobom. Mi to razumemo, a on ne. Naša stvar je pravedna", naglasio je beloruski lider.


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Zelenski se naravno već javio i krajnje očekivano spinovao kako Putin želi da nastavi rat, zato otežava i sabotira predlog a koristi "manipulativni" rečnik jer ne sme direktno da kaže Trampu da ne želi primirije.
Naravno, sutra ćemo verovatno istu salvu izjava dobiti i od EU čelnika.



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Ajmo se pokušati ubacit u Trumpova kožu. USA nema nikakvog straha biti vojno izazvana. Ona može birat u koji sukob ulazi i sa kojom snagom. Nju čuva Ocean. Trump ima oko sebe Biznis ljude. On vidi da je utjecaj Dolara pao. On vidi da je Industrija odselila. On ima Izrael na vratu i nezahvalne Europljane. I naravno sve jaču Kinu. Rusija je time važan čimbenik u njegovom viđenju svjeta. Rusija mu može izać u susret u razgovorima sa Iranom. On može otkupit Sjeverni tok i Ruski Plin prodavat Evropljanima. On može zamolit Putina da dedolarizacija se uspori. Isto tako da UŠ Firme imaju mogućnosti u Donbasu da crpe rudna bogatstva ili čak da pomognu u obnovi. Trump će u sljedećih 4 godine dobit mnogo problema. I svaki i simbolični uspjeh mu daje malo zraka. USA i Rusija neće postat prijatelji ali mogu prestat bit neprijatelji. Rusija bi mogla pokazat neku uzdržanosti u vezi Kine? U politici koju Trump vodi je simbolika jako važna. Rat u Ukrajini je jedna mala nevažna stvar koja stalno nervira. Trump će od Ukrajine dobit rijetke metale i time završava njegov interes za Ukrajinu. Rusija je mnogo interesantnija.

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Citat:Страна: Келлог је суспендован из мировних преговора на захтев Москве због свог проукрајинског става

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Kakvog proukrajinskog stava, lik ih je pred publikom bukvalno opisivao kao magare koje odalamiš da bi te slušalo.

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Here's a full transcript of the Russian president’s response to 30 day ceasefire:

Before I assess how I view Ukraine's readiness for a ceasefire, I would first like to begin by thanking the President of the United States, Mr. Trump, for paying so much attention to resolving the conflict in Ukraine.

We all have enough issues to deal with. But many heads of state, the president of the People's Republic of China, the Prime Minister of India, the presidents of Brazil and South African Republic are spending a lot of time dealing with this issue. We are thankful to all of them, because this is aimed at achieving a noble mission, a mission to stop hostilities and the loss of human lives.

Secondly, we agree with the proposals to stop hostilities. But our position is that this ceasefire should lead to a long-term peace and eliminate the initial causes of this crisis.

Now, about Ukraine's readiness to cease hostilities. On the surface it may look like a decision made by Ukraine under US pressure. In reality, I am absolutely convinced that the Ukrainian side should have insisted on this (ceasefire) from the Americans based on how the situation (on the front line) is unfolding, the realities on the ground.

And how is it unfolding? I'm sure many of you know that yesterday I was in Kursk Region and listened to the reports of the head of the General Staff, the commander of the group of forces 'North' and his deputy about the situation at the border, specifically in the incursion area of Kursk Region.

What is going on there? The situation there is completely under our control, and the group of forces that invaded our territory is completely isolated and under our complete fire control.

Command over Ukrainian troops in this zone is lost. And if in the first stages, literally a week or two ago, Ukrainian servicemen tried to get out of there in large groups, now it is impossible. They are trying to get out of there in very small groups, two or three people, because everything is under our full fire control. The equipment is completely abandoned. It is impossible to evacuate it. It will remain there. This is already guaranteed.

And if in the coming days there will be a physical blockade, then no one will be able to leave at all. There will be only two ways. To surrender or die.

And in these conditions, I think it would be very good for the Ukrainian side to achieve a truce for at least 30 days.

And we are for it. But there are nuances. What are they? First, what are we going to do with this incursion force in Kursk Region?

If we stop fighting for 30 days, what does it mean? That everyone who is there will leave without a fight? We should let them go after they committed mass crimes against civilians? Or will the Ukrainian leadership order them to lay down their arms. Simply surrender. How will this work? It is not clear.

How will other issues be resolved on all the lines of contact? This is almost 2,000 kilometers.

As you know, Russian troops are advancing almost along the entire front. And there are ongoing military operations to surround rather large groups of enemy forces.

These 30 days — how will they be used? To continue forced mobilization in Ukraine? To receive more arms supplies? To train newly mobilized units? Or will none of this happen?

How will the issues of control and verification be resolved? How can we be guaranteed that nothing like this will happen? How will the control be organized?

I hope that everyone understands this at the level of common sense. These are all serious issues.

Who will give orders to stop hostilities? And what is the price of these orders? Can you imagine? Almost 2,000 kilometers. Who will determine where and who broke the potential ceasefire? Who will be blamed?

These are all questions that demand a thorough examination from both sides.

Therefore, the idea itself is the right one, and we certainly support it. But there are questions that we have to discuss. I think we need to work with our American partners. Maybe I will speak to President Trump. But we support the idea of ending this conflict with peaceful means.

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India wants to be Europe's weapons maker, and that means Ukraine too. Will China allow it?
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India sees the war in Ukraine as an opportunity to dramatically expand its weapons export industry.

India is the world's largest importer of advanced weapons, but can build high volumes of ammunition. They focus on munitions for NATO artillery, such as the 155-mm howitzer, and are able to produce 155 shells for less than a third, compared to Pentagon contractors.

The European Union is racing to find new suppliers of weapons, now that their arsenals have been run down because of large deliveries to Ukraine. And, they hope to rebuild their own stocks, to the levels that can sustain thirty days of intense combat.

India's arms shipments to Europe has quintupled since the war in Ukraine began, with most of those weapons eventually routed to Ukraine itself.

Russia, which is India's main oil and advanced weapons supplier, as well as a fellow BRICS member, has made their objections to India's ambitions clear.


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Добар канал за економију, а ево сада прича и о овој теми.

Некоме рат а некоме...Даће Бог да ми Европљани мало одморимо од ратова ускоро, а да се тежиште пренесе на Азију, па да ми се мало богатимо док се они кољу.

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Ja da moram da palim granatu koju je napravio indus uzeo bi uze od bar sto metara.

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BBC sazeo Putinovu poziciju: "Nema iznenadjenja ovdje. To je ne preruseno u da"

Citat:No surprises from Putin today
published at 18:58 13 March

Vitaliy Shevchenko
Russia editor, BBC Monitoring

No surprises there, it’s a no disguised as a yes.

Vladimir Putin put forward conditions that will be devastating for Ukraine: No more weapons supplies, no more mobilisation, surrender rather than withdrawal of Ukrainian troops in the Kursk region, and most importantly the removal of “underlying causes of this crisis.”

Recent history suggests that for President Putin, these “underlying causes” include the very existence of Ukraine as a sovereign state free to pursue its own policy at home and abroad.

The US and Ukraine have both said that the ball is now “in Russia’s court,” but Russia’s president has just tried to push the ball back into their court.


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Primetni pomaci u Zaporožju, javlja Suriyak:
Citat:Situacija na Zaporoškom frontu: Tokom poslednja tri dana ruska vojska je uspela da povrati neke položaje južno od Kamjanskog. Pored toga, nakon ponovnog zauzimanja sela Pjatihatki, ruske snage su napredovale prema Malom Ščerbakiju, zauzimajući nekoliko položaja južno od mesta.
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Današnji pregled razvoja situacije u kurskoj oblasti, DivGen, Radov, Suriyak:



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Citat:Kurska regija. Oružane snage Ukrajine nastavljaju povlačenje iz regiona Kursk. Sva predgrađa Sudže su oslobođena, kao i selo Rubanščina. Takođe, naši padobranci se bore za selo Basovka u regionu Sumi.


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Citat:Situacija na Kurskom frontu: Ruska vojska je uspela da ponovo zauzme zapadna predgrađa Sudže, Zaolešenku i Gončarovku i stigla je do predgrađa Rubanščine. Sa severa je obezbeđen put Sverdlikovo–Sudža, dok je sa juga ponovo zauzet Melovoj, uz nastavak napredovanja ka ukrajinskoj granici i mestu Olešnja.
S druge strane, ruske snage su ušle u selo Basivka u Sumskoj oblasti i obezbedile nove položaje u šumi Novenke.



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Citat:
Oružane snage RF ušle su u Vasjukovku u pravcu Severskog.


Citat:Situacija na Soledarskom frontu: Tokom poslednje dve nedelje februara ruska vojska je intenzivirala operacije na ovom frontu uz minimalna napredovanja kod Orehovo-Vasiljevke. Ove nedelje ruske snage su napredovale oko Grigorovke i istočno od Saka i Vansetija. Na ovom pravcu ruske trupe su započele napad na Vasjukovku i uspele da se učvrste u prvim kućama naselja.
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