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Nemacka mornarica ocekuje prvi NH90 Sea Tiger do kraja godine
Germany to receive first NH90 Sea Tiger anti-submarine helicopter by the end of 2025
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djox ::Norvezani i dalje traze nadoknadu za svoje...sad je uvecali
Norway Now Demands €2.8B For 14 Troubled NH90 Helicopters Initially Bought For Just €0.5B
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Citat:The Norwegian Ministry of Defence has decided not only to continue demanding compensation from the NH Industries manufacturer for the NH90 helicopters but has also dramatically increased the claim amount.
Back in 2022, Norway's defence ministry announced it wanted compensation of €0.5 billion, to which the company responded with a refusal and a readiness to go to court. Now, the claim has risen to €2.5 billion

Izgleda mi da su isterali svoje i da ce dobiti nadoknadu,a vracaju sve helikoptere sa rezervnim delovima i ostalom opremom
NH Industries to pay Norway $432M settlement to end NH-90 helicopter contract dispute
Citat:As part of the settlement, Norway will also return all 14 of its NH-90 aircraft to NHI, alongside spare parts, tools and mission equipment.
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djox ::^^Prve povlace vec od sledeceg meseca
Citat:The country currently operates four NH90-TTHs, with the first aircraft leaving service in September 2025. Belgium will join a multinational NH90 support contract with France and Germany to cover remaining needs until retirement.
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Krenuli
Citat:Belgium has decided to retire its NH90 NATO Frigate Helicopters from the search-and-rescue mission and transition to a new helicopter platform for that role.
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Jel ima neki razlog zasto je ovaj helis toliko los u eksploataciji?
Jel su ih lose pravili/sklapali?
jel previse osetljiv? Sta je problem
Samo neke kritike i povalcenje iz sluzbe
Sta je poslo naopako?
Ajde da ga je radila Indija pa da razumem, ali iza ovog projekta stoje sve jake industrije i proizvodjaci sa pedigreom
Kako Airbus ili Leonardo nema ovake probleme sa proizvodima koji se direktno prave pod njihovim brendom
Cak i Boing sto se tice helisa nema neke kritike

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proslo je to da su ga pravili po zahtevima vise korisnika, u vise verzija, sa sporom proizvodnjom i jos vecim problemom oko delova zbog toliko razlicitih zahteva.
to je sve zavrsilo tako da je proizvodnja isla sporo, a cena koriscenja otisla u nebo.

kako je to jedan od korisnika reddita lepo objasnio:

The NH90 has issues with its birth.

14 definitions in two variants among 14 -state- customers and a headache of customisation.

One wanted a different airframe with a higher cabin for its "tall soldiers", others wanted their own slings or proprietary floatation systems to be integrated. Some wanted collective grip to be installed with a cap on fast rope release button because they don't want to drop soldiers by mistake, while others wanted no cap because soldier's life is less important than losing a multi million helo. You name it. 14 kids wanting their own toy with unreasonable requests.

Now add to this a multi state owned manufacturer responsibilities dispatch which makes everything 3x slower and more complicated, and you have an idea of how rough making it possible it was.

Which is a shame because performance wise it is a great helo. Its FBW system is huge - for a "helicopter of the 90s" design - enabling strong operational upper modes to assist pilot's mission.

It drastically failed at being a reasonable program. It's too complicated to be sustainable.


ili kako je to norveski ministar odbrane rekao:
“Regrettably, we have reached the conclusion that no matter how many hours our technicians work, and how many parts we order, it will never make the NH90 capable of … meeting the requirements of the Norwegian Armed Forces,”


nije to los helic sam po sebi, samo prekomplikovan za koriscenje. vojske su jednostavno izgubile volju da se bakcu sa time, i uzele su alternative koji su jednostavnije i jeftinije za koriscenje.

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Da, uz sve to Airbus i Leonardo već uveliko imaju čitavu paletu svojih helikoptera-Eurocopter i AW varijante. Zašto bi gubili novac i vreme na ovaj joint venture? To je od starta osuđeno na propast.

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Kao helikopter je preloš. Od svih tih "europrojekata" je zadnji dobar bio FH 70, a posle toga kojekude.

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Ako nista drugo imace sansu da se pokaze u Ukrajni
Sigurno ce Ukrajinci trazite od Norveske i Belgije da im daju helise, ako vec nisu to uradili

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Holandjani nabavljau jos tri
Citat:NATO’s Helicopter Management Agency has awarded NHIndustries a contract to deliver three NH90 NATO Frigate Helicopters to the Royal Netherlands Air and Space Force.
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Grci obezbedili odrzavanje za svoje
Citat:Greece has finalised its first national support agreement for the NH90 helicopter fleet with NHIndustries, a deal structured to deliver spare parts and maintenance over the next five years and substantially raise the fleet’s operational readiness and availability.
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Nemacka mornarica primila prvi
The German Navy has officially taken delivery of its first NH90 Sea Tiger helicopter
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Citat:The German navy has taken delivery of its first of 31 NH-90 MRFH Sea Tiger multi-role frigate helicopters.
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