Sovjetski vazduhoplovi u Američkim rukama

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Citat:Simulated foreign targets wait to be found during exercise Emerald Flag at Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., Dec. 1, 2020. Emerald Flag was a collaborative multi-service effort focused on increasing the effectiveness of the joint domain warfighter. (U.S. Air Force photo by 1st Lt. Karissa Rodriguez)

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4 MIG-21 F-13 nabavljeni 1973. iz Indonezije u zamenu za 19 T-33
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Around the same time as the CA-27 Sabre delivery, the US donated 19 Lockheed T-33 Shooting Star advanced jet trainers to the Air Force in 1973. The donation was actually a barter as Indonesia handed over four Soviet-made MiG-21s to the US for evaluation purposes.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/12/28/use.....rland.html

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CIA je preko Indonezije nabavila sve sto su im iz SSSR prodali pocetkom 1960-ih.

Sistem vodjenja SA-2 pomocu cega su razvili ometace
Planove TU-16, SSN-2 Styx protivbrodskih raketa, krstarica Sverdlov i podmornica klase Viski.

https://asiatimes.com/2021/03/how-a-cia-operation-.....etnam-war/

Citat:Habrink was not limited to the SA-2, which allowed the US to jam the radio frequency used to guide the missile to its target and to adopt other electronic countermeasures to defeat Hanoi’s air defense system, combining missiles and radar-controlled guns.

Over time, the CIA also acquired the designs for the Whiskey-class submarine, the Sverdlov-class battlecruiser, the SSN-2 Styx anti-ship missile and the Tu-16 Badger bomber, all of which had been supplied to Indonesia in a US$2.5 billion deal with Moscow in the early 1960s.

Citat:Cameron says Barnett’s revelations unraveled a mystery that had “haunted” the Soviet military throughout the Vietnam War: How had vulnerable Strategic Air Command B-52 bombers been able to fly deep into North Vietnam and drop their 30-ton payloads without suffering a hit?
Spies Daniel Cameron and Wim Vermeulen share a beer. Photo: Supplied

The Stratofortress was first introduced into the Vietnam war in 1966, flying from Guam’s Anderson airbase and a year later from the newly-constructed U-Tapao base on the Gulf of Thailand with its four kilometer-long runway.

High-altitude raids over northern Vietnam were carried out with seeming impunity until November 22, 1972, when a surface-to-air missile struck a B-52 near the southern coastal city of Vinh, the first of the bombers to be downed by hostile fire.

A month later came Linebacker II, the last major air campaign of the war where the North Vietnamese were forced to fire salvoes of missiles fitted with close proximity fuses to try and ward off waves of B-52s and their radar-jamming escorts.

Because they were flying at a lower altitude to lessen civilian casualties, 15 more of the big planes were lost, including one that crashed over U-Tapao’s perimeter fence after attempting an emergency landing with five of its eight engines shredded by groundfire.

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F-14 vs MIG-23 i MIG-21/F7



Citat:First up was the Flogger and Ward’s initial impression was that the jet was much smaller than he’d anticipated. Until now, the most he’d seen of a MiG-23 was in grainy intelligence photos.

After joining up with the air-to-air variant of the MiG-23, the first point on the flight plan was a speed demo. With Tomcat and MiG-23 side-by-side, the command came over the radio: “On my mark, go to full afterburner.” In the F-14A, the TF30 engines had to be carefully advanced through the stages up to full military power. Not so in the MiG. “Bottom line is, the MiG-23 just walked away from us … First lesson learnt, don’t try to outrun a MiG-23,” Ward says.

Next up were maneuvers with the Tomcat alternating between defensive and offensive starting positions. With the MiG-23 on the offensive, a max-g turn by the F-14 was enough to force the MiG to overshoot immediately. Subsequently, with the F-14 on the offensive, the Navy jet was able to keep pace with the turning MiG, maintain the advantage, and get in close enough for a potential gun kill.

The third Flogger event was a neutral setup, starting with the jets three miles apart and at 350 knots. This time, the MiG-23 pilot dived very low and very fast, and the F-14 crew lost sight of it over the desert. The Soviet jet then reappeared on their wing line and took a simulated shot — it was “a real eye-opener” for Ward and his pilot.


Citat:The YF-110 — an F-7 in this case — was next and, conversely, this looked bigger than Ward was expecting.

In the speed demo, the F-14 could keep pace with the Chinese Fishbed clone. In the defensive setup, however, the F-7 was able to hang in the turn with the Tomcat, demonstrating a similar turn rate, but a smaller radius over the first 90 degrees of the turn. Beyond that, the F-7 pilot was “spat out,” unable to keep tabs on the Tomcat and overshooting. With the F-14 on the offensive, Ward and “Truck” could stay glued to the Fishbed throughout the turn.

The neutral setup provided another surprise for the VF-32 crew. With the F-7’s limited turning ability in mind, they didn’t expect the bandit to enter a one-circle fight. But then, the F-7 went vertical “in a way that was very surprising.” The adversary pilot deployed flaps in a “magic move” and was suddenly looming behind the F-14 in an offensive position. Another lesson learned.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40907/what-i.....g-squadron

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Rade premestaj u novi objekat pa je izasla lista sta sve premestaju.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43733/air-fo.....g-facility

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Ranije na forumu pominjana moldavska eskadrila MIG-29 koja je zavrsila u Americi 1997. za 40 miliona $.





27 aviona( pre toga jedan prodat Rumuniji, jedan oboren, cetiri prodata Jemenu)
507 raketa i rezervni delovi i oprema

344 R-60, 112 R-73 i 51 R-27

Citat:From the start, the United States was interested in the capabilities of the jets, as well as keeping them from Tehran. Members of the Air Force's Air Intelligence Agency were part of the team sent to recover them. Once the aircraft had been transported to the United States, they were examined closely by personnel from the National Air Intelligence Center (NAIC) at Wright-Patterson.

One item that was apparently singled out for particular interest was the MiG-29’s Soviet-standard identification friend-or-foe (IFF) system, likely the system codenamed Slap Shot by NATO. This allowed the MiG-29 pilot to interrogate similar systems to identify other aircraft or forces as friendly and would likely have revealed useful details about Soviet command and control networks.

The condition of the jets themselves left a lot to be desired, with at least some having been crudely over-sprayed in green paint while stored in Moldova. As of mid-1998, at least eight of these MiG-29s sat grounded and partially disassembled at Wright-Patterson, but the whereabouts of the other aircraft at this point was unclear.

At least some of the ex-Moldovan MiGs were returned to airworthiness and likely put through their paces, including in dissimilar air combat training (DACT) against U.S.-made jets. This would, of course, have provided valuable insight into the Soviet-made fighters, and especially the Fulcrum-C version, over and above what the NAIC engineers would have found in their ground-based investigations and from previous foreign exchange opportunities, exercises, and anecdotal firsthand reports. It's even possible that a MiG-29 or two may have already been flying clandestinely for the Department of Defense at the time, but a whole fleet would provide an opportunity for expanded and more robust operations.

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Michael E. Ryan had confirmed that the service would fly a “few” of the ex-Moldovan jets in 1998. However, he denied that there were any plans to form some kind of aggressor unit, as some reports at the time had hinted might happen.

Years later, Smithsonian magazine reported that “a few Fulcrums that could be made flyable probably went to Edwards Air Force Base in California for testing,” although this cannot be confirmed.

On the other hand, a video from 2003 shows examples of both the MiG-29 and Su-27 over Groom Lake, Nevada, better known as Area 51. The clip below shows a MiG-29 flying with the Airborne Seeker Test Bed (ASTB), an adapted Gulfstream GII that’s used for research on radio-frequency and infrared sensors. It’s not clear whether one of the ex-Moldovan MiGs was involved, but it seems almost certain that the Fulcrum was being used to test and evaluate the performance of various sensors against it and to catalog its unique signature.

Since then, there have been further eyewitness reports of MiG-29s flying from Groom, with at least one observer noting that the aircraft involved were from the Moldovan stocks.

“I saw two -29’s on two consecutive days in November 2009,” an account on the area51trips blog explains. “The first was returning to Groom Lake over Queen City Summit, NV. The second was seen practicing intercepts with an F-16 over the Powerlines Overlook, before the pair flew directly over me back into Groom Lake Air Base. There is of course the possibility that I saw the same aircraft flying on each day.”



https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44661/the-la.....9-fighters

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Da vidim kako bi to sad te eroplane koje su namenili dostavili ukrajini ako ih prate sa S-400 iz više pravaca i dali bi ih i gde oborili.
Pitam se,pitam?

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@voja64 negde videh danas da predlazu i Kosovo. To bi tek bio sou program.

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не значи им ништа косово, ем је далеко (мора негде успут да слећу по гориво), ем мора преко неког да лете тамо.

у каквом су стању били ти молдавски тада?