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Tenk M1 Abrams

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^ Ista je logika, pošto optronika nišanđije nije utopljena u kupolu. Imalo bi smisla kad več koriste istu optroniku, da nišanđija i komandir imaju i celokupnu zajedničku vatrenu kontrolu. Starno ne vidim razlog za dodatnu 3 optroniku kod takvog dizajna.



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Zato sto su namena i mogucnosti nisandzijine nepodesne za gadjanje ciljeva u VaP?



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^ Može Safran Paseo da ima teoretski 44° elevacije + i 10° -. Na tenku je ograničena vanjskim antibalističkim kučištem. Kolika je + elevacija sa tim kučitem nema podataka.

Mislim, da je problem integracija više oružja, previše košta i nije proverena, pa stavljaju dodatnu optroniku u kompletu sa dodatnim monitorom ako ne i dodatnim joystickom. Ipak su glavni top i mitraljez spregnuti, znači minimum komplikacije.

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Kolega jazbar ono sto ja vidjeh na ovom tenku je mnogo bitnih stvari za tenk koje stoje van tenka pocevsi od tih nezasticenih glava nisanskih sprava pa nadalje ,a ako se sudare sa T 72 ili T80-90 vidim i mnogo otkrivenih delova da se upotrebi podkalibarna,a posebno ce biti interesantno videti njihovu upotrebu u ukrajinskom blatu i potrosnju goriva .Da se zna ja sam ga 1996 vozio na poligonu Manjaca i nisam odusevljen sa tim tenkom .Pozdrav..

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Penzionisane marinske tenkove modernizuju na SepV3

Citat:Sierra Army Depot is using its strategic location and unique capabilities to send hundreds of M1A1 Abrams (FEP) tanks to Anniston Army Depot for further rebuild. These tanks are from USMC retired vehicles that will be rebuilt and upgraded to the latest M1A2 SEPv3 for the Army.

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Izasao drugi paket od 116 za Poljsku

Citat:WASHINGTON, December 6, 2022 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Poland of M1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tanks and related equipment for an estimated cost of $3.75 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

The Government of Poland has requested to buy one hundred sixteen (116) M1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tanks; twelve (12) M88A2 HERCULES Combat Recovery Vehicles; eight (8 ) M1110 Joint Assault Bridges; six (6) M577A3 Command Vehicles; twenty-six (26) M1152A1 High Mobility Multi-purpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWV); twenty-six (26) M1279A1 Joint Light Tactical Vehicles (JLTV); one hundred sixteen (116) M2 .50 caliber machine guns; two hundred thirty-two (232) M240 7.62mm machine guns; six (6) AGT1500 gas turbine engines; thirty thousand nine hundred twenty-eight (30,928) 120mm M865 Target Practice, Cone Stabilized, Discarding Sabot - Tracer (TPCSDS-T) cartridges; twenty thousand eight hundred twenty-three (20,823) 120mm M1002 Target Practice Multipurpose Tracer (TPMP-T) projectiles; sixty thousand (60,000) 120mm M829A4 Armor Piercing, Fin Stabilized, Discarding Sabot-Tracer (APFSDS-T) cartridges; two thousand (2,000) 120mm M829A3 Armor Piercing, Fin Stabilized, Discarding Sabot-Tracer (APFSDS-T) cartridges; fifty thousand (50,000) 120mm M829A2 Armor Piercing, Fin Stabilized, Discarding Sabot-Tracer (APFSDS-T) Cartridges; ten thousand (10,000) 120mm M830A1 High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) TP-T cartridges; sixty thousand (60,000) 120mm M908 High Explosive Obstacle Reduction-Tracer (HE-OR-T) cartridges; and seventy thousand (70,000) 120mm M1147 High Explosive Advanced Multipurpose Round cartridges. Also included are Forward Repair Systems; Next Generation (NG) Shop Equipment Maintenance Contact (SECM) shelters; communications equipment; GPS receivers; ammunition; Spare and Repair Parts; Special Tools and Test Equipment (STTE); technical manuals and publications; new equipment training; U.S. Government and contractor technical engineering, logistics, and personnel services; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The total estimated program cost is $3.75 billion.


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Prvi iz februara za 250, pominjan tada

Citat:WASHINGTON, February 17, 2022 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Poland of M1A2 SEPv3 Main Battle Tanks and related equipment for an estimated cost of $6.0 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

The Government of Poland has requested to buy two hundred fifty (250) M1A2SEPv3 Abrams Main Battle tanks; two hundred fifty (250) AN/VLQ-12 CREW Duke counter-IED systems; twenty-six (26) M88A2 HERCULES Combat Recovery vehicles; seventeen (17) M1110 joint assault bridges; two hundred seventy-six (276) M2 .50 caliber machine guns; five hundred (500) M240C 7.62mm machine guns; fifteen (15) AGT1500 gas turbine engines; nine thousand one hundred sixty-eight (9,168) 120mm M865 Target Practice, Cone Stabilized, Discarding Sabot - Tracer (TPCSDS-T) cartridges; four thousand five hundred ninety-two (4,592) 120mm M1002 Target Practice Multipurpose Tracer (TPMP-T) projectiles; thirteen thousand nine hundred twenty (13,920) 120mm M830A1 High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) TP-T cartridges; and six thousand nine hundred sixty (6,960) 120mm XM1147 High Explosive multipurpose tracers. Also included are forward repair systems; trailer mounted generators; Common Remote Operated Weapons Station Low Profile (CROWS-LP); communications equipment; GPS receivers; ammunition; spare and repair parts; Special Tools and Test Equipment (STTE); technical manuals and publications; maintenance trainers; gunnery training systems; tank driver’s trainers; new equipment training; U.S. Government and contractor technical, engineering, and logistics personnel services; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The total estimated program cost is $6.0 billion.


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SD ::Kolega jazbar ono sto ja vidjeh na ovom tenku je mnogo bitnih stvari za tenk koje stoje van tenka pocevsi od tih nezasticenih glava nisanskih sprava pa nadalje ,a ako se sudare sa T 72 ili T80-90 vidim i mnogo otkrivenih delova da se upotrebi podkalibarna,a posebno ce biti interesantno videti njihovu upotrebu u ukrajinskom blatu i potrosnju goriva .Da se zna ja sam ga 1996 vozio na poligonu Manjaca i nisam odusevljen sa tim tenkom .Pozdrav..

Ovde neki tvrde da su laksi za odrzavanje nego T72, T80 sto ja ne mogu da verujem znajuci amere...
Mene kod Abramsa odusevljava unutrasnji prostor, odvojena municija...

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Traze manje sati odrzavanja od strane posade po radnom casu/predjenoj kilometrazi*. Ne znam sta je tu cudno, noviji tenkovi su uvek bili takvi. I medju sovjetskim T-80 je trazio manje od T-72, a T-72 od T-62/T-55, iako se ovde redovno prosipa prica da je "T-55/62 laksi za odrzavanje".
Druga stvar je provera sistema koje posada ne dira, tu ce svaki tenk koji ima moderne sisteme upravljanja vatrom/komunikacije itd morati da provede vise vremena "na klocnama". Ali bez istih ne ide.

*Plus vecina ima 4 clana posade, pa je to jos manje u proseku po clanu posade, a neke stvari je dosta lakse uraditi sa 4 clana posade.

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To je u cistoj suprotnosti sta su pisali ljudi za situaciji u Kuwaitu tj poredjenje izmedju M84 i Abramsa..sad da li je to domača propaganda ili ne...mislim da je to pisalo i vlado ovde..
Zasto je normalno da noviji tenk u istom stanju kao stari (tj posle isto casova tj km) traži manje odrzavanje nego stari? Sta je tu drugcije da traži manje sati? Da imaju bolja tehnicka resenja? Bolji plan odrzavanja? Bolju dijagnostiku?
Sto se tice odrzavanje suva i kom uredjeja tu danas nema sta da radi ni posada a bogami ni remontni zavod...vec proizvodjac. Sigurno se radio koji ne radi ne cacka več se posalje u Harris recimo...niti ti proizvodjaci objave seme niti ti dozvole da otvaras stvari (popizde ako otvoris:)).

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