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Vodici pasa i vojni psi

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Nikakvu!Ovo je verovatno izolovan slucaj!Vuk nije dobar za dresuru..previse je divalj i slobodan da bi bio uvek pokoran i od poverenja!



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Mislim da ih zovu Volkosob - hibrid vuka i psa, stvoren od FSB-a za čuvanje Rusko-Kineske i Mongolske granice.
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So, in the Perm Military Institute of Internal Forces of Russia (PVI MVD RF), established in 1981 (the current name - from 1996), one of the four faculties - dog breeding (established in 1990-1991, teaching degree in biology , canine "), in 2007, received some relatively stable species that are suitable for the needs of the border. This volkosob, as the name implies - a hybrid of wolf and dog. The first thing that characterize volkosobom - a comparison of "on order": "fangs volkosobov an order of magnitude sharper than those of sheep" ("fangs bite pads as part of the butter knife"), "find the infringer or drugs such four-legged security guard to be 10 times faster than the domestic counterpart - such pearls issue here, so to speak, and journalists. Thus, the facts:
- Appearance: volkosoby almost indistinguishable from the wolves, well camouflaged, even in open terrain;
- Physical characteristics: volkosoby have good health (the frequency of treatment to the vet in the hybrids is 2-3 times smaller than that of dogs) to quickly restore the physical strength, resistant to frost hardy, without a running start jump over the 2-meter fence. If a German Shepherd can with the rest to run 20 km - it is considered a good result (some dogs can and 30 km), Wolf and volkosob may, after 2 to 3 days fasting for one day to go 150-200 km; Shocked
- Scent: a volkosobov it is 5-6 times more acute than in dogs (wolves - about 10 times sharper than the dog). Hence, at least two advantages: the ability to maintain a fresh scent trail the top (which is found only in the most talented dogs and is more of an exception), and the opportunity to take an old (8 to 12 hours old, in some cases, and 4-day ) trail (however, Bloodhound, dog hunting breeds can take odor trail and more than a 10-day limitation period; it is noteworthy that these dogs as volkosoby are difficult to education and to training). In addition, unlike dogs, volkosoby almost never lose track taken. Another feature volkosobov - the ability to take the smell, which is difficult to train dogs, for example, the smell of oil - experiments for the detection of many kilometers in area of illegal tapping confirmed the effectiveness of volkosobov. Similarly, attempts are made and, frankly, exotic attempts - to teach volkosobov "unyuhivat" oncology, which itself has no clue, but in most postavnoe question has already laid a contradiction - in volkosobov no criteria because the medical community, such attempts rightly taken a hostile reception;
- Grip: what is called the iron, without an inclination to intercept. Volkosob can bite protection, which is made of felt and plastic;
- Nature: the desire for independence, developed by the territorial principle, the aviary has a floor to put a metal grid, otherwise, like wolves, may make a tunnel and escape, it is difficult to motivate for joint action with man and for man;
- Related to the victim: the dog, grabbing the hand, tormented hand volkosob same (this is from wolves), grasping the hand begins to methodically steal up to the most vulnerable spot - his throat, grabbing the leg - to the groin;
- Object detection (explosives, drugs) or person (offender) in a limited space: "ordinary" working dogs - for 1,5-4 minutes (compared to a standard of 6 minutes), volkosoby - for 15-20 seconds. The reason - is committed to finding other tactics: dogs randomly tossing pre exploring the whole area, volkosoby same once run on the perimeter, passing immediately find the desired;
- Intelligence: German Shepherd volkosob exceed the speed of perception of information, intelligence, cunning, well-developed elementary rational activity, is able to apprehend the combined (ie, serial detained two people when important role played by intelligence), and the job with detention likes less just by the way, the wolf brain size by almost a third more than the dog - it is visible even on the size of the head;
- Emotional: the dogs are highly dependent on emotion in pursuit addicted cadets dragged along, volkosoby same few emotions, running easily, confidently, waddling;
- Behavior in an unfamiliar situation: the dogs evince fear volkosoby - no. Volkosob can calmly standing between two roaring BTRami, almost did not respond to shooting;
- The learning curve: the dogs learn to last longer. For example, to recognize the smell of oil volkosoby capable of 8 sessions, the dog to do this for several years;
- Training: Dog variability, volkosoby tend to practice once gained good experience, for example, if in training volkosob attack a specific person ("the doll"), then starts to do it and after, as volkosoby shape their attitude to the man since the first time (it should be behave calmly and confidently as if aggressively volkosoby themselves were not) - how it goes, everything depends on the relationship between them: "All his behavior, it [the she-wolf Nayda, ancestor of the Permian volkosobov] showed kindness and peacefulness. It is true, further work with it showed that if a person against her or showed fear or aggressiveness, found with memorized once a man and showed him a pronounced anger without any signs of cowardice, and change such attitudes in any case failed "," One of the cadets once threw stones at Naidu, obzhivshuyusya in the nursery - she remembered. I saw that the fence goes cadets systems, jumped three-meter barrier, rapidly tracked down the offender and snapped it. Revenge. " By volkosobami inefficient use direct force coercion and physical punishment: "If a dog growls, I had never abused, just taking by the scruff and turn over on his back pressed to the ground - says colleague Stephen - also cadet Perm Military Institute - Alexander Kharitonov and demonstrates on their Trust volkosobshe Dina educational method. - I do not hurt her, and acting as a leader in the pack. Thereby showing that I am stronger and nobler: can hurt, but I do not. Dinah hold so long as it will not accept. Then let go and say: "Well done! Good! "In general, the carrot and stick policy in action." There are specifics in the food reinforcement: when working with pure wolves, it is ineffective when dealing with dogs do not need food and sweets, and working with volkosobami works flawlessly (one might even say, that only edible reinforcement and works): "Shepherd executes commands for the owner. If he pleased, happy dog, too - reveals the secrets of dog training [cadet] Alexander Kharitonov. - From volkosobom things differently. He looks at you and pretends to be: What benefit will I get if I do something that asks me to. These dogs, more rational, so it is difficult to explain the benefits. Although the method of food with them running smoothly. - But sooner or later they will get full, then what? - I'm interested in [correspondent]. - We checked: eat until you burst, - Alexander laughs. - Able to eat cereal ... 6.5 cisterns;
- Application: volkosob fit only for dog training, home environment is unsuitable;
- Communication with man: the usual wolf-dog hybrids, having lost contact with a person, usually to a person not be returned due to a person not looking for, among volkosobov bitch Daisy escaped from an enclosure, ran away (after it chased km 15), and showed up weeks after 3 in a nearby village in an old man: came to the yard for dogs.

Other benefits volkosoba:
- From the wolves: the inability to bark, although in unusual situations, the dog may well howl and wolves - podlaivat (for example, when the hamper is), strength, endurance, appearance, leadership (on the verge of dominance);
from dogs: kindness to people.

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Probali su razni svasta..pa i mi sa Sop-om!Budalastine!
Nemci su ovcara pravili 60 godina a vi znate sta se dobije kad Nemac napravi nesto!
Sve te rase pravljene namenski imaju mane ,fali im sredina koju N. ovcar ima.Dobar u jednom a los u drugom i to je problematika!Zato je N.O. dobro spakovan i dobar za sve.

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sezan ::Probali su razni svasta..pa i mi sa Sop-om!Budalastine!
Nemci su ovcara pravili 60 godina a vi znate sta se dobije kad Nemac napravi nesto!
Sve te rase pravljene namenski imaju mane ,fali im sredina koju N. ovcar ima.Dobar u jednom a los u drugom i to je problematika!Zato je N.O. dobro spakovan i dobar za sve.


šta im vredi kad su ga pravili 80 godina kad su ga za zadnjih 15-tak godina nažalost psa doveli u invalidno stanje

pretvorili su ga u pola psa pola žabu

još uvek ih ima dobrih uglavnom u službama , gde se pazi i na karakter i na zdravlje psa
mrzi me da jurim snimke sa izlozbi na kojima N.O. jedva hodaju a postali su šampioni :-(

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Jedna malo nehumana ali ucinkovita i jos uvijek aktualna primjena pasa u ratu.

Odi Floki...trci..trci...Badabooooom! Mr. Green

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bolenbgd ::sezan ::Probali su razni svasta..pa i mi sa Sop-om!Budalastine!
Nemci su ovcara pravili 60 godina a vi znate sta se dobije kad Nemac napravi nesto!
Sve te rase pravljene namenski imaju mane ,fali im sredina koju N. ovcar ima.Dobar u jednom a los u drugom i to je problematika!Zato je N.O. dobro spakovan i dobar za sve.


šta im vredi kad su ga pravili 80 godina kad su ga za zadnjih 15-tak godina nažalost psa doveli u invalidno stanje

pretvorili su ga u pola psa pola žabu

još uvek ih ima dobrih uglavnom u službama , gde se pazi i na karakter i na zdravlje psa
mrzi me da jurim snimke sa izlozbi na kojima N.O. jedva hodaju a postali su šampioni :-(

Ne znam odakle ti ova konstatacija!N.ovcar je (pored mnogih rasa isprobanih) pokazao najbolje osobine ..karakterne i fizicke!Cak i medju nji,ma nisu podobni krupniji primerci vec oni srednjeg rasta!To sto ima takvu fizionomiju apsolutno nije mana.Mozda se vizuelno ona nekome ne svidja ali pas je dokazan u svim ratovima i koriste ga sve vojne i policijske sluzbe sveta kao NAJBOLJEG SLUZBENOG PSA!I tu nema pogovora!To ne kazem ja ,vec cinjenice!
Izlozbeni psi su jedno a sluzbeni drugo i kada se radi o istoj rasi,to ne treba mesati!I karakterno i fizicki se razlikuju!
Koliko sam upucen vise se ne koriste psi za postavljanje mina pod tenkove ,niti bilo kakve samoubilacke zadatke.Mislim (ne tvrdim) ,da to vise ni jedna vojska ne radi!Danas je naoruzanje na takvom nivou da je zrtvovanje pasa besmisleno,ssem sto je nehumano!Kolkio samo rada treba i sredstava da se obuci jedan dobar sluzbeni pas..!Misli da se to vise nigde ne radi!I hvala bogu da je tako!

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ma slazem se ja sa tobom daleko od toga , a i više nema potrebe za ruskim psima i dizanjem tenkova u vazduh
al zao mi da vidim "vučjaka da seta ko pijan

evo male razlike izmedju sluzbenih i ostalih N.O.


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za sopa kolko sam procitao nikad nije ni postojala namera da bude službeni pas vec samo čuvarski pas malo mišićaviji i utegnutiji od raznih mastifa

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