Rat Iran - Izrael 2024-2025 godina

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Izrael ima dominaciju u vazduhu a Iran u balistici ... Mozda je Iran primio vise samara ali nije ni da Izraela ne bride obrazi ... E sad realno, Izrael je jaci bio i ostao (s obzirom ko stoji iza njega) ali pitanje je koliko bi se isplatilo primiti samara da se sukob nastavio. Mislim da je Izrael ocekivao vise od ovih udara i da nije ocekivao ovakve udare Irana ali vidjecemo, vrijeme sve pokaze ...
Mislim da Izrael ne moze dominirati Iranskim nebom ali iz daljine moze rokati po Iranu bezbjedno ... Isto tako Iran moze sa balistikom sasvim solidno da odgovori ... ispali i bjezi.
Za Iran stancanje balistike za lager je sada prioritet i popravljanje bezbjednosnih mjera da pri sljedecem obracunu bude manje mosadovih agenata ... PVO se moze popraviti a i ne mora ono sto boli Izrael je rokanje po njihovim gradovima. Isto tako obnova avijacije po meni ne treba da bude prioritet Irana, ima vecih (za to svakako treba dosta vremena i novca) ...

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Što reče jedan moj prijatelj, kada Jevreji i mi prestanemo da merimo kožice, tada ćemo da pobedimo.

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Napisano: 27 Jun 2025 9:26

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Citat:For example, it is reported that the Iranian Air Force has retained most of its aircraft and pilots.

But even this could not help.

And it is not only about the fact that saboteur groups were operating in western Iran and in the vicinity of Tehran, agents were monitoring bases, Israeli MALE drones were flying and Israeli fighters were operating from afar. This is all true. But this was not the case everywhere.


The main problem is the lack of situational awareness at operating air bases.


Large airspace control radars were attacked at the beginning of the conflict, two of them back in 2024 by the same Israel. Because of this, a stable radar field at high and medium altitudes disappeared over a significant part of Iran.


The Iranians, of course, tried to use mobile radars. But even where they were not attacked after deployment, there were two problems.

First, the mountainous terrain of many areas of Iran. A significant part of the view is simply blocked by mountains on most sites suitable for radars.

And those that are best suited for the available "field of view" were already occupied by large stationary radars, which were knocked out at the very beginning


Iran also did not have AWACS aircraft that could be kept on duty in shifts at least over Tehran 24/7, in order to provide an overview of the air situation


Nevertheless, the Iranians managed to do something. And they even managed to gradually re-create some airspace control zones. This was done using various mobile surveillance radars.

But even when the radars detected flights of attack aircraft, there was no way to promptly convey the information to fighter aircraft.


Israeli raids even deep into Iran were well calculated and there was little time to intercept them. And in order to arrange an "ambush", the fighters on duty had to receive information in advance, while the enemy was still far away.

But the transfer of information was organized both organizationally and technically in such a way that even when the Israelis attacked something in the area of ​​responsibility of a completely live base with fighters ready for takeoff, the crews always received the input too late.


The main complaint of Iranian experts is that although the Iranian Air Force did not have much hope for direct air victories, the aviation could help even using old aircraft.

Because if fighter aircraft received input data on time, then in mountainous terrain there was a chance to simply disrupt attacks by "suddenly jumping out from behind the mountains." More precisely, from the radar shadow they created.


As the North Vietnamese Air Force regularly practiced during the repelling of US raids. The enemy operated at extreme ranges and with a small number of aircraft. Therefore, a sudden air battle, even if a draw, could well disrupt the execution of a combat mission.

In general, another conflict has shown that the implementation of the potential capabilities of weapons and equipment (for example, the F-5 and F-14) is critically dependent on the capabilities of the combat control system and the speed of transmitting information about the combat situation.

To be continued...
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Dopuna: 27 Jun 2025 9:27

Također se priča o hitnoj nabavci kineskih J-10 aviona koje do sada nisu nabavili jer su Kinezi škrti.
Citat:🇮🇷🇨🇳 Iran Moves Quickly to Buy Chinese J-10C Fighters Amid Escalating Regional Threats

Iran has decided to urgently acquire Chinese J-10C multirole fighter jets, according to Kommersant, citing Iran’s Khorasan newspaper.

Talks with Beijing over a major arms deal—initially for up to 150 jets—had dragged on for nearly two decades due to payment issues. Tehran faced a chronic shortage of foreign currency, while China was unwilling to accept payment in oil or gas. The scope of the deal was eventually reduced to just 36 aircraft. That changed on June 24, when the United States quietly gave China the green light to purchase Iranian oil without the threat of sanctions.
Following the recent war with Israel—where Israeli air superiority was painfully evident—Iran is now rushing to modernize its air force.

According to Military Balance 2025, Iran had up to 150 operational fighter jets prior to the conflict, most of them outdated American models. The Iranian Air Force also retains up to 18 MiG-29A/UBs acquired in the late 1980s and early 1990s, but most are non-operational due to a lack of spare parts and the complexity of maintenance.

Experts note that the J-10C offers a practical solution—cheaper and more readily available than Russian MiG-35s or Su-35s, which Tehran had previously considered.

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Izrael bez amera jedva da je jači od bilo koga. Svako drugi da radi ono sto Izrael radi, bio bi sravljen sa zemljom, zato molim vas ne pravite od Izraela neku super silu jer to nisu.

Sto se tice otvora za ventilaciju, pa sve da je prva raketa pogodila otvor i prosla dublje i esplodirala, samim tim bi odma i zatrpala rupu koju napravi, pa nece stene da stoje a da se ne obruse. I iskreno, sumnjam da su stajali iznad otvora i bacali rakete pod uglom od 90c. I mi ne znamo pod kojim uglom je ta ventilacija, nisu oni glupi toliko da prave ventilaciju od 90c tacno izand postrojenja. Naravno da je bilo i stete, pitanje je u kom obimu.

Mozda mi promaklo, ali ima li kakva slika tih otvora nakon intervencije?

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Чини се да се дошло до преломне тачке ..Јастрбовима у Израелу_.се изашло у сусрет..одобрен им напад_добили по носу срушено пола Израела_сад могу само да ћуте..дакле фијаско_ и кормило ће преузети друге снаге. Израел неће више бомбати Иран.
Мени је барем то очигледно
Као што је очигледно постигнут договор на највишем нивоу да Иран може обогаћивати уранијум до нивоа цивилне употребе..сви ће се држати договора.
Следи нам релаксација и попуштање тензија на блиском истоку

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Oво са вентилацијом ме посећа на Ратове звезда. Направе онолику звезду смрти ал оставе вентилацију до реактора директно. Нема бога да је ишла вертикално кроз целу планину. Нити да су Амери провукли бомбу кроз њу.
Трамп се скоро огласио са правдањем да Иранци крпе те улазе.

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Bobrock1 ::https://x.com/SprinterObserve/status/1938366154373771724

GP":Izraelski Kanal 13: Bilo je mnogo iranskih raketnih pogodaka na baze IDF-a, na strateškim lokacijama o kojima još uvijek ne izvještavamo."

Navodno su bili pogodki iznimno precizni. Mogu sada zamislit, ko je tražio premirje.
Cak i da je Izrael zatrazio ,Iran je oberucke prihvatio primirje
Moze sada da se prica o Izraelu sta god ko zeli,ali neumoljive cinjenice govore da su likvidirali trideset iranskih generala u naucnika. To zastasujuca brojka. Izvrsili su vazdusne udare i nisu uzgubili ne jedan jedini aparat ili pilota,mada su Iranci pustali pricu o zarobljenoj zeni pilotu IAF.
Jasno je da su iranski udari imali efekta i da su zalihe izraelskih PVO raketa verovatno dospele na krtican minimum,ali je Iran prihvatanjem primirja propustio momentum koji mu je nametnut.
Da Iran nije bio grogi bokser nije imao razloga da prihvata primirje.Napadnut je ,strateski objekti su bili pod udarom,generali i naucnici su likvidirani gotovo teroristickim metodama, ako posle toga prihvatas primirje znaci da si vise nego dobro uzdrman uprkos zalihi balistickih projektila.Ili da je postojala americka "ponuda" koju nije mogao da odbije
Do sledeceg napada na Iran ce sigurno doci,ali ce Jese biti jos bolje organizovane i opet ce imati SAD iza sebe
Veliki beli poglavica je ukrao sou,Izrael je ostvario verovatno dobar deo svojih zacrtanih ciljeva,a Iran,kao i svaki bokser imao je par dobrih udaraca, ali je objektivno izgubio borbu.

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Забога зашто да не прихвати примирје? Па циљ им је да ови престану да их нападају.

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Apok ::...Направе онолику звезду смрти ал оставе вентилацију до реактора директно...

Uobičajena zabluda koju su posle retroaktivno pretočili u još jedan film kao planiranu sabotažu, a u stvari pogoditi snažno branjeni otvor te veličine u tim uslovima je praktično nemoguće, što se zapravo pokazalo kao tačno. Luka je pratila "sila" pa je postigao to nemoguće a ove ne znam šta je moglo da prati, još uvek ništa nije toliko precizno. Pri čemu je jedno pogoditi otvor a drugo da nešto pošalješ kroz njega. Jedino ako je cilj bio da eventualnim prenosom vibracija unište/oštete opremu unutra...

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Imala i Straževica ventilacione otvore...