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Kubovac ::Stigli od "antisemitizam i laž je da mi ubijamo civile, preko "laž je da ubijamo civile namerno" do konačnog "ubijamo civile namerno, ali šta je uopšte civil u Gazi kog đavola i koliko ih je u stvari potpuno nevino?"



Ništa novo. Sad i kod nas tv mediji dovode neke NN individue da operu sve poteze Izraela. Ženska osoba, verovatno zavisna od najtežih pororka, tek je drugi put vidim na tv-u, kaže da zgrade ne padaju zbog direktnih pogodaka izraelskih bombi već zbog pogodaka u tunele koje je Hamas prokopao ispod njih. Hamas nije nikakav ljubitelj životinja, već zločinačka organizacija koja zloupotrebljava kanarince za ispitivanje kvaliteta vazduha u tunelima. Kad kanarinac krepa, znak je da se napusti taj prostor Shocked Shocked. Kakvi sad kanarinci i bakrači, i ta jeftina patetika??!!
Jetra mi je pocrnela slušajući plaćenu propagandu ove ženske spodobe i način na koji pokušava da opravda jednu stranu, ne osvrćući se na civilne žrtve rata. Drskost do koje su spremni da idu nema granice.



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Citat:Kakvi sad kanarinci i bakrač

Kanarinaci su se koristili u rudnicima za otkrivanje otrovnih gasova.



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Hvala na prosvetljenju ali nisi razumeo nešto. Znaš li koliko su kanarinci bitni za celokupnu sliku situacije u Gazi?
Žena nije ni slovo izustila o recimo masovnoj izgibiji dece.

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Meni niko ne mora da govori o mrtvoj deci. Ni kanarincima. Niti mora. Da gledam TV da bi skupio info.

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Ništa tebi lično nije ni govoreno. Meni je na TV dovoljna slika bez reči. Da vidim panoramu naselja koja su poravnata u stilu tepih bombardovanja.
Informacije skupljam iz daleko pouzdanijih izvora nego što je to televizija, pa još domaća. Ponekad se usudim čuti mišljenje nekog stručnjaka. Sad sam imao prilike naleteti na nestručnu budalu, ženskog pola, koja za ovo što lupeta ispostavlja mastan račun.

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Citat:
Kanarinaci su se koristili u rudnicima za otkrivanje otrovnih gasova.

Osim što je to potpuno retardirano objašnjenje, pošto su kanarinci korišćenji u rudnicima uglja, gde se metan i ugljen monoksid stvaraju kao posledica fosilizacije uglja i posledica miniranja, a Hamasovi hodnici su imali i ventilaciju.
Naravno, za plebs je sasvim dovoljno jer zvuči poznato i logično.

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Citat:Osim što je to potpuno retardirano objašnjenje, pošto su kanarinci korišćenji u rudnicima uglja,

Naravno da je retardirano jer je dotična neki bilmez. Šta očekivati od nje više.

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Rizikujuci da navucem bes vecine foruma mora da postavim jedno pitanje, uz napomenu da je cisto u svrhu pojasnjenja nekih stvari, kao i da u ovom sukobu ne drzim ni jednu stranu jer tu niko nije nevin.

Da li se zna sta se radi sa ubijenim palestincim od kojih je 15000 ili koliko god dece sto znaci bar jos toliko odraslih. Da li se sahranjuju u masovne grobnice, spaljuju, bacaju u more, voze u Izrael pa zakopavaju u pustinji. Gde su dokazi. Na tako malom prostoru to se ne moze sakriti.

Ne zelim da licitiram brojevima niti da umanjujem zrtve, jer i jedno poginulo dete je mnogo, ali kad toliko analiziramo svaku vest iz rata u Ukrajini, analizirajte kriticki i objave strana u ovom sukobu.

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Citat:In a recent interview, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said about 30,000 people had been killed in Gaza, with 14,000 of them being "terrorists" and 16,000 civilians. He did not provide any evidence for those figures.

Keeping precise records of casualties during wartime is challenging, so it is therefore not unusual for the numbers reported to vary, according to Prof Erica Charters who specialises in the study of war.

The initial figure for how many people were killed in Hamas's 7 October attacks was originally put at 1,400 by Israeli authorities, but was later revised down to about 1,200.

At the time, the Israeli authorities said the misidentification of some of the burnt bodies was the reason for the discrepancy.

Why did the UN change approach?

The GMO has consistently given a higher figure for the proportion of women and children in all fatalities than has the health ministry.

On 6 May, the UN reported 34,735 deaths - of which there were 9,500 women and 14,500 children, citing the GMO as its source.

The two days later, the UN released a further report, switching its sourcing to the health ministry.

The result of this was that although the overall recorded death toll was almost unchanged (34,844), the number of registered deaths of women (4.959) and children (7,797) had both fallen significantly.

This difference was because those individuals with incomplete information were not included in the demographic breakdown.

The GMO says the proportion of women and children killed in the conflict is around 70%.

The UN's latest report, citing health ministry data, says out of 24,686 fully identified fatalities, 52% were women and children, 40% were men, and 8% were "elderly", without specifying whether they were male or female.

It isn't clear what age the report considers to be "elderly" and how it categorises children.

We have done our own analysis of detailed data released by the health ministry, and also found that 52% of the fatalities were listed as women and children (anyone under 18 ). In addition, 43% were men and another 5% were "unknown" (missing information such as an age or gender).


For the GMO's figure to be compatible with the health ministry's data, almost all of the 10,000 deaths not fully identified by the ministry would have to have been women and children.

"It's not logically impossible... but it really strains credibility," says Prof Michael Spagat, who specialises in examining death tolls in conflicts around the world.

We asked the GMO why the proportion of women and children they have recorded as killed is so much higher than in the health ministry's data, but they did not provide a direct response to the discrepancy.

We also approached the health ministry for comment.

Prof Spagat also told the BBC that the death toll in Gaza was "staggeringly high" given the war has only been going on for six months, noting that the verified hospital deaths still represent about 1% of Gaza's pre-war population of 2.4 million.

Asked by BBC Verify why it made the change, the UN said it used the GMO data for women and children killed because the health ministry had not been publishing these figures.

"Once the ministry of health in Gaza published breakdowns that were more comprehensive, backed up by a list of names, the UN reports reflected that data instead," a UN spokesman said.

He added that in both cases, the figures were attributed to their source and a "clear note" was added making clear the UN's "inability to presently provide an independent confirmation of the data".

The UN has previously said that it has a "long-standing co-operation" with the Gaza health ministry, and that its previous reporting has been considered credible and "well developed".


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-69014893

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