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[url=https://www.mycity.rs/must-login.png Pomins II[/url]






Od 25 Pomins II i kasnije nešto jači MICLIC.



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Jedno Kinesko rešenje sa njihovim tenkom Typ 59 napred NOŽASTI čistači a od zada lanser za pružno punjenje poput UR-83 sličan su sistem isprobavali i Poljaci pa ga 90ih nudili i Hrvatskoj...



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Da dopunim još jednom slikom sa minočistačem koga sam na prethodnoj strani okačio a sada ima i slika iz profila sa FB grupe World War 2 Eastern Front
gde je tekst uz slike.
Soviet minesweeper tanks clearing passages in Finnish minfields; Soviet heavy armour and artillery headed towards Vyborg. June 1944, Karelian isthmus

Evo i te sa prethodne kao veza..

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Pored familije sa disk sekcijama ima kopija KMT-5 na sve strane a evo još jednog gde je ako se ne varam iza tenak iz vamilije Paton...

Uz sliku nađo na drugom izvoru natpis XM1060 robotic obstacle-breaching assault tank..

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Pripremam malo opširnija predstavljanja desetak tipova minočistača pa ih sada ne bi kačio ali mi je pri ruci par slika od vrancuza.AMX-30 DT je nastao na bazi istoimenog borbenog tenka pa da ga posle ne previdim.


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Još par minočistača sa nožastim uređajem tek da ne čuvam više slike i da pokrenem seriju detaljnijih predstavljanja .
Izraelska Pumica

Kenjski ABV

Finska Patria

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Citat:Pored familije sa disk sekcijama ima kopija KMT-5 na sve strane a evo još jednog gde je ako se ne varam iza tenak iz vamilije Paton...

Skidali Izraelci sa zarobljenih arapskih tenkova, pa napravili svoju verziju, a da li i drugima. Zove se Norchi. Okačio sam ja na temi o inženjerijskim vozilima tog robotizovanog Patona, čistača mina. Inače Puma ima Norchi diskove ili Magov minski plug (onaj američki u V).

Evo ga Norchi na Pumi. Pozadi je Carpet sistem za čišćenje minskih polja. Korist ga i Francuzi. Voja ga nešto uvek sumnjivo gleda.



I tekst o Pumi. VIU Munja je, bar tako deluje najsličnija Pumi, po opremi i nameni.

https://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/e...../Puma.html

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PUMA
Minefield breaching vehicle


EVE TT podataka za pumico...
Country of origin Israel
Entered service 1991
Crew 3 + 5 men
Dimensions and weight
Weight 50 t
Length 7.48 m
Width 3.38 m
Height 2.65 m
Performance
Earth working capacity ?
Armament
Machine guns 4 x 7.62 mm
Mortar 1 x 60 mm
Mobility
Engine ADVS-1790-6A diesel
Engine power 900 hp
Maximum road speed 45 km/h
Range 450 km
Maneuverability
Gradient 60%
Side slope 40%
Vertical step 0.9 m
Trench 3.35 m
Fording 1.45 m
Znajući koliko Izrael posvećuje pažnju oklopnoj zaštiti ni ne sujmam da su inžinjerci u Izraelu vrednovani ko svemirci ali mi malo ne uliva nade ovaj ravni nož koji kao da je sišao sa nekog tenka ili TZI a da se nisu odviše pretrgli da porade na njemu da se deli na pola ili iskošava više i tako istiskuje izvađene mine a sa ravnim nožem oće mine u tumbanju i da se aktiviraju a kad gi je više eto belaja...
Evo kolekcije slika koju sam ja povadio .



Nađo i ovaj podatak
This minefield breaching vehicle is fitted with various mine clearing devices, depending on mission requirements. It can be fitted with mine clearing rollers, mine rake or bulldozer attachment. Its mine rollers are based upon the Russian KMT-5 design, but offer better performance. The PUMA can also tow trailer with specialized engineering equipment. Vehicle can be also fitted with electromagnetic mine neutralization system that detonates roadside bombs or jams detonation signals. A crane can be fitted at the rear.





Kažu da mu je boljka kao i na MUNJI
A major drawback of this vehicle is that there is no rear entry or exit for the crew or dismounts. Combat engineers have to egress via a large roof hatch, exposing themselves to enemy fire. The risk of exposing the troops was found to be a very important drawback so much that the vehicle was judged unsuited for the heavy armored personnel carrier role.

Vehicle can be equipped with RAFAEL Carpet minefield breaching line charge system. It is mounted at the rear of the vehicle or in a trailer. It has 20 fuel-air explosive rockets that are fired singly or all together. By exploding these rockets destroy most of the mines. After that PUMA advances forward and destroys unexploded mines with rollers or clears the way with mine rake.

http://www.military-today.com/engineering/puma.htm

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Slična logika i kod znatnog dela savremenih minočistača je da su proizašli iz šasija osnovnih tenkova sa izostavljanjem kupole a dodavanjem potrebnih elemenata za svoju namenu u izradi prolaza kroz minska polja.Tako su i Finci za svoju bazu uzeli Leoparda 2A4 main battle tanks te načiniše.
Patria Heavy Mine Breaching Vehicle
Minefield breaching vehicle

A small number of Patira Heavy Mine Breaching Vehicles are in service with Finland
Entered service 2008
Crew 3 men
Dimensions and weight
Weight 49 - 53 t
Length 7.92 m
Width 3.75 m
Height 2.88 m
Armament
Machine guns 1 x 12.7 mm
Mobility
Engine MTU MB-837 Ka501 diesel
Engine power 1 500 hp
Maximum road speed 72 km/h
Range 550 km
Maneuverability
Gradient 60%
Side slope 30%
Vertical step 1.15 m
Trench 3 m
Fording 1 m
This combat engineering vehicle is based on refurbished Leopard 2A4 MBT chassis. The turret has been removed and replaced by new non-rotating superstructure. Pearson Engineering of the United Kingdom supplied a complete suite of mine clearing equipment. A full-width mine plow is installed at the front. It is operated by the driver. Vehicle is also fitted with a cleared lane marking system, installed at the rear. It deploys pennants into the ground as the machine moved forward. Large containers for additional specialized equipment are fitted at the rear over the engine deck.

The main role of this vehicle is to clear pathways through minefields, creating safe lanes for other vehicles to pass. It allows assault units to move rapidly through obstacles, before enemy forces establish defenses.

The Heavy Mine Breaching Vehicle (HMBV) was developed in Finland by Patria to meet operational requirements of Finnish Defense Forces. Sometimes this vehicle is referred as Leopard 2R. Since 2005 Finnish Defense Forces operate a fleet of 124 ex-German Leopard 2A4 main battle tanks. To support this fleet some minefield breaching vehicles and armored bridgelayers, based on the same chassis, were acquired. First Heavy Mine Breaching Vehicles were delivered for trials in 2006. After the trials have been completed a total of 6 machines were acquired. Some sources report that officially HMBVs entered service in 2008.

The Heavy Mine Breaching Vehicle offers even higher level of protection than the original Leopard 2A4. Additional floor has been added internally to improve crew survivability against anti-tank mines. All of the crew seats are attached to the roof for additional survivability. Vehicle is fitted with NBC protection system.

In order to carry out some combat engineer roles a front-mounted dozer blade can be rapidly installed in place of the mine plough. It is also operated by the driver. With the dozer blade installed vehicle can be used to clear battlefield obstacles, prepare firing positions and prepare sites for bridging operations.

This military machine is operated by a crew of three, including commander, engineer and driver. Also there is space for one passenger or one more crew member. There are a number of forward-facing cameras and passive night vision equipment.

Vehicle is armed with a roof-mounted 12.7 mm machine gun. This machine gun is controlled manually and is mainly intended to engage air targets. Also there are a number of smoke grenade dischargers.

The Finnish HMBV is powered by MTU BM-837 Ka501 turbocharged diesel engine, developing 1 500 hp. Mobility and cross-country performance of this engineering vehicle are similar to those of the Leopard 2A4.
http://www.military-today.com/engineering/patria_hmbv.htm

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Iženjerijski korpus u Izraelu je jako cenjen i jako puno je ulagano u njega. Jedno od najtežih i najprestižnijih mesta gde može da se služi. Pume i oni D9 Catovi su u specijalnim jedinicama koje se zovu TZAMA, skraćenicaod specijlna iženjerijska vozila.Imaju i inženjerijske specijalce u formi jedinice Yahalom, koja između ostalog silazi u one tunele.

E sad za Pumu, kada ide da čisti mine,u njoj je dvočlana posada, nikada ne vozi odljenje pionira, zapravo sapera. I ne koristi dozerki nož no ili diskove ili onaj V plug.

Puma i Munja su bliske rođake i po generaciji tenka i po nameni i po transportu. Inače Puma ide u penziju,menja je Nemar CEV.

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