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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 17 Jan 2016 10:33
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Zna li neko u čemu je caka kod ovog pozdravljanja koje je sasvim nejednoobrazno .
Dli ima neko pravilo da se sa Šapkom pravilno samo ovako pozdravlja ili sam ja doneo krivi zaključak?
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Koliko vidim ovde samo SS-ovac pozdravlja ispruženom rukom. Ostali oficiri na slici su pripadnici Wehrmachta i ne koriste nacistički pozdrav...
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Poslao: 17 Jan 2016 12:43
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Мени ситуација на овој фотографији изгледа као сукоб старе школе (официри вермахта, школовани пре Хитлерове власти, могуће ветерани 1.с.р.) и нове школе (млађи официр вафен СС, политички задојен).
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Poslao: 17 Jan 2016 12:46
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Ne kaže se džabe da slika vredi više od 1000 reči pa tako ima i raznih viđenja iste a sa kojima se i ja slažem.
Nego mene interesuje ono pitanje od gore.
"Zna li neko u čemu je caka kod ovog pozdravljanja koje je sasvim nejednoobrazno .
Dli ima neko pravilo da se sa Šapkom pravilno samo ovako pozdravlja ili sam ja doneo krivi zaključak? "
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Poslao: 17 Jan 2016 12:55
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Citat:The Wehrmacht refused to adopt officially the Hitler salute and was able for a time to maintain its own customs.[44] A compromise edict from the Reich Defense Ministry, released on 19 September 1933, required the Hitler salute of soldiers and uniformed civil servants while singing the "Horst Wessel Lied" and national anthem, and in non-military encounters both within and outside the Wehrmacht (for example, when greeting members of the civilian government). At all other times they were permitted to use their traditional salutes.[44] Use of the Hitler salute was also permitted when in uniform. However, it is of importance to note that according to (pre-Nazi) Reichswehr and Wehrmacht protocol, the traditional military salute was not permitted when the saluting soldier was not wearing a uniform headgear (helmet or cap). Because of this, all salutes performed bareheaded, even when in full uniform and on duty made the Nazi salute de facto mandatory in most situations.[45]
Only after the 20 July Plot in 1944 were the military forces of the Third Reich ordered to replace the standard military salute with the Hitler salute, as a show of loyalty in deference to the fact that it was Army officers that had been responsible for the assassination attempt.[46] The order went into effect on 24 July 1944.[46] The use of the Hitler salute by the military had been discussed as early as January 1944 in a conference regarding traditions in the military at Hitler's headquarters. Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel, head of the Armed Forces, had expressed a desire to standardize the salute across all organizations in Germany.[47]
On the night of 3 January 1942, Hitler stated the following about the compromise edict of 1933:[28]
I imposed the German salute for the following reason. I'd given orders, at the beginning, that in the Army I should not be greeted with the German salute. But many people forgot. Fritsch drew his conclusions, and punished all who forgot to give me the military salute, with fourteen days' confinement to barracks. I, in turn, drew my conclusions and introduced the German salute likewise into the Army.
— Adolf Hitler, Hitler's Table Talk
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Poslao: 17 Jan 2016 14:09
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VJ
Upravo na ovo sam ciljao da su VOJNICI Wermahta imali koliko toliko slobodu u armiji u odnosu na sve druge jedinice Nemaćke armije iz DSR.
Jer je baš ovaj detalj najznačajniji za te različitosti pa me otuda i čudi kad sve pripadnike te vojske stavljaju u isti koš ,mada se ruku na srce ni ovi izuzeti nisu uvek ponašali doličnog ugleda kome su vazda težili.
Nekad je ta nedoslednost u ponašanju pri svom čuvanju ugleda nastajala samim svojim činjenjem svega i svačega.Mada se je isto tako ta nedoslednost ogledala i u nečinjenu na odbrani svega što su stari vojnici Wermahta želeli da im bude na čast i ponos u viteštvu i negovanju starih tradicija.
Pa im se stoga i sa pravom spočitava da su u biti bili deo opšteg zla kao pripadnici tih hordi koje su svet zavile u crno tih 30 i 40ih godina prošlog veka.
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Poslao: 17 Jan 2016 16:01
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Свакако, нису исто, али се ипак мора напоменути да су припадници свих немачких оружаних формација чинили злочине.
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Mil.Arzt Sannitäter Feldapotheke Wehrmacht Cilli Jugoslawien 2WK ( Celje Slow.)
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