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Sall ::Gripen menja F-5E/F, a nesto ce morati da zameni i F/A-18C/D...
Nemaju švajcarci toliko novaca za razbacivanje. Gripen bi trebao biti jedini lovac. Mogli bi iči i u nabavku lakog lovca/naprednog trenažera TA-50 koji bi menjao F-5 kao što to svi rade i onda posle isteka resurseva F-18 da nabave još još neki srednji lovac.



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Napravili studiju za 20 do 70 novih lovaca
Swiss Could Buy up to 70 New Combat Jets: Task Force
Citat: Switzerland could eventually be in the market for as many as 70 new fighter jets or as few as 20 under scenarios laid out on Tuesday by a defense ministry task force examining how to replace the neutral country's aging air force fleet.

The most expensive and powerful option would be to buy 55-70 aircraft and ground-based air defense weapons for an estimated 15 billion to 18 billion Swiss francs ($15.3-$18.4 billion), according to the report.

It did not say which aircraft the government should consider.

The least expensive option would be procuring 20 jets and accompanying ground-based air defense systems for 5 billion francs. Other options called for buying 40 or 30 new aircraft plus surface-to-air defense support.


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jazbar ::Sall ::Gripen menja F-5E/F, a nesto ce morati da zameni i F/A-18C/D...
Nemaju švajcarci toliko novaca za razbacivanje. Gripen bi trebao biti jedini lovac. Mogli bi iči i u nabavku lakog lovca/naprednog trenažera TA-50 koji bi menjao F-5 kao što to svi rade i onda posle isteka resurseva F-18 da nabave još još neki srednji lovac.


Nece biti. Vecina je glasala za opciju 3, a to je ono sto su hteli od pocetka. Ove opcije jedan i dva su tu samo da ne bude da je izabrana najskuplja.
Skoro sam siguran da Horneti nece biti zamenjeni Gripenima, kada za to dodje vreme. Svajcarci kao i svi pametni ljudi znaju da su potrebna 2 tipa borbenih aviona. Mislim da najvece sanse za zamenu Horneta imaju Eurofajter i Rafal, sa posebnim akcentom na Rafal. Pogotovo sto su Francuzi nabavili 20ak PC-21, uz mogucnost da sve Alfa Dzetove jednog dana zamene sa PC-21, ako procene da im je to ok.

-- Option 1: Replacement of present fighter inventory by 55 (possibly up to 70) new combat aircraft, replacement of current air-defense network with new system offering improved performance.
Estimated cost: 15 to 18 billion Swiss francs.
-- Option 2: Acquisition of 40 new combat aircraft and procurement of a new air-defense network.
Estimated cost: 9 billion Swiss francs.
-- Option 3: Acquisition of about 30 new fighters and service life extension of F-18 Hornet fighters until 2030, and significant improvement of the performance of the air-defense network.
Estimated cost: 8 to 8.5 billion Swiss francs.
-- Option 4: Acquisition of only 20 new fighters, service life extension of the F-18s and renewal of the current air-defense network.
Estimated cost: 5 billion Swiss francs.

The majority of the Expert Panel members (6) voted in favor of Option 3. Options 1 and 2 won two votes each, while as single panel member voted for Option 4.

The members of the Support Panel representing the main political parties voted for Option 3 (3 votes) with a single vote for Option 1.)

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Swiss fighter project obtains initial approval
Citat:Switzerland's Conseil national, the lower house of its Federal Assembly, has approved funding for the initial stage of an effort to replace its air force's Boeing F/A-18C/Ds.
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Svajcarci trenutno raspolazu sa oko 15ak letno sposobnih F-5E i 5 F-5F + oko 8 F-5E akro grupe Patrouille Suisse od 12, koliko ih je ofarbano u boje AG.

Avioni koji su se mogli videti u vazduhu u zadnjih par meseci su:
F-5E - 3005, 3015, 3030, 3033, 3036, 3038, 3044, 3065, 3068, 3073, 3074, 3077, 3092, 3094, 3095
F-5F - 3201, 3202, 3209, 3210, 3211
Patrouille Suisse (F-5E) - 3080, 3082, 3084, 3085, 3087, 3088, 3089, 3090,

Situacija nije sjajna. U naoruzanju se vodi kao da ih imaju 41 E + 12 F, sto znaci da je operativnost niska.

Do kraja ove godine ce ih verovatno biti jos manje, jer svajcarsko RV se povlaci iz Siona do kraja 2017 i to ce biti samo civilni aerodrom. Razlog povlacenja je smanjenje RVa, pa im nije potreban. U vojne svrhe ce se koristiti iskljucivo kao alternativni aerodrom.

Sto se tice Horneta, to je situacija totalno drugacija. Od 25 F-18C i 5 F-18D koji su u naoruzanju, u zadnja 3 meseca je letelo cak 20 C i 3 D, sto znaci da je operativnost 80% za F-18C i 60% za F-18D.
Ako nekome znace brojevi..
F-18C: 5001, 5002, 5004, 5005, 5008, 5009, 5010, 5011, 5012, 5013, 5014, 5015, 5016, 5017, 5018, 5019, 5020, 5021, 5023, 5026.
F-18D: 5232, 5234, 5236

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Modernizuju F/A-18 Hornet
US Approves New Upgrade for Swiss F-18C Fighters
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Австрия и Швейцария совместно закупят истребители?
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Policy Decisions on the Renewal of Airspace Protection Means
Arrow http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/rele.....-gbad.html
Citat:At its meeting of 8 November 2017, the Federal Council took decisions in principle concerning the renewal of the means of protection of Swiss airspace. It is planned to acquire new combat aircraft and a new system of Ground-Based Air Defense (GBAD), for a maximum cost of 8 billion francs.
8.11.2017 su na sastanku Saveznog vijeća, dogovorili, da trebaju nov avion i nov PVO za max. 8 miljardi franaka.

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Citat:First Swiss woman to be selected for fighter pilot conversion course
The Swiss Air Force could have its first woman fighter pilot next year when 1st. Lt. Fanny “Shotty” Cholet graduates from her F/A-18 conversion course next year.

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Swiss Air Force Grounds Five Hornet Fighter Jets

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Dopuna: 10 Feb 2018 16:48

Ne znam da li je bilo. A iako jeste, nije lose da se ponovi. Izvestaj evaluacije aviona iz 2008/2009, koji je procurio davnih dana. Znam da volite "POVERLJIVO". Smile

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