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Kolega Nelsa, hvala za iscrpna objašnjenja. Vidi, zna se da je Rusija isporučila Siriji 72 AShM tipa "Yakhont" u sklopu obalskih protiv - brodskih sistema "Bastion". Na iranskim forumima se pojavljuju špekulacije da i Iran posjeduje taj sistem. Ima li ikakvih pouzdanih informacija o tome?
Imaš li ti neki link ?

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Napisano: 24 Jan 2012 0:18

Te informacije postoje i prije nego je Sirija dobila te projektile,u obavještajnim izvještajima i sajtovima koje se bave vojnom tematikom se vodi da Iran od 2006 g posjeduje MOSKIT I YAKHONT projektile ali i ako do sada nisu posjedovali sada sigurno hoće.
Iran je siriji isporučio obalske baterije NOOR 2 koje su Sirijci testirali na zadnjim manevrima,pored toga Iran je isporučio Siriji nišanske HT-233 radare kao i osmatračke najvjerovatnije GHADIR ,takodje u predhodnim godinama je veliki broj bal.projektila isporučeno kao i prenos tehnologije za FATEH 110 i još mnogo toga.
Oni imaju potpisane sporazume o zajedničkoj odbrani i razmjeni tehnologije i ako još dodamo da većinu projekata i nabavki oružija za Siriju finansira Iran ,neke u cjelosti a neke djelimično onda možemo zaključiti da sve što Sirija nabavi u odredjenom djelu ide u Iran kao i obratno.
Imam u pdf-u izvještaje IISS-a i još nekih u kojima se spominju i ovi projektili pa ću postaviti.

Dopuna: 24 Jan 2012 0:45

Evo jedna analiza ,pošto je fajl prevelik evo jedan dio copy/paste , većina analiza i izvještaja uzima da Iran posjeduje odredjen broj tih projektila i opet kažem i ako ih nisu imali sada ih sigurno imaju.

So while the Bush administration has proceeded with diplomacy, officials repeat that the military option "remains on the table" if that's what it takes to deny the Tehran regime the nuclear bomb. Indeed, many in Washington believe that U.S. Air Force is ready with advanced plans to bomb Iranian nuclear sites.

John Pike maintains that not only is the administration preparing for a pre-emptive attack on Iran, but even without such a move the destabilizing forces already unloosed in the Middle East may escalate into a situation in which Iran will try to obstruct the passage of shipping through the Strait of Hormuz--where the Persian Gulf narrows to only 34 miles and through which 90 percent of Persian Gulf oil exports pass. If, according to Pike, Iraq breaks up into three partitioned regions--Kurdistan in the north, an oil-less "Sunnistan" in the middle, and a Shia-dominated region in the south--Saudi Arabia, already the Sunni insurgency's biggest supporter, will see its fellow Sunnis deprived of the oil wealth that has historically been theirs and will possibly increase its aid to the Sunni insurgency. Iran will respond with increased support for Iraqi Shias. Thence, the struggle could intensify into a conflict resembling the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq "Tanker War", when both countries attacked oil tankers and merchant ships--including those of neutral nations--to deprive their opponent of trade. As in the 1980s, U.S. naval forces would be drawn into such a conflict between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

This time, though, the Iranians possess at least 300 Exocet antiship missile systems and an undisclosed number of Russian Moskit supersonic antiship systems--and possibly also the improved Moskit version, the Yakhont.

Recent naval history provides a foretaste of what the relatively primitive Exocet missiles could do. In the Falklands War in 1982 between the U.K. and Argentina, Argentinean jets armed with French-made Exocets hit the H.M.S. Sheffield, whose superstructure was constructed of lightweight aluminum. The aluminum melted and the frigate burned to the waterline and sank. Similarly, in 1987, during the Iran-Iraq War, an Iraqi jet launched two Exocet missiles into the U.S.S. Stark, another frigate, and its lightweight aluminum superstructure also caught fire.

It is Iran's Moskits, though, that are the real concern for American ships. These ramjet-equipped missiles, flying two and a half to three times the speed of sound and as low as five feet above the water, were specifically designed by the Russians to overcome the Aegis defense systems and SM-2 and SM-3 defense missiles protecting American aircraft-carrier groups. The maximum theoretical response time to a Moskit launch is 25 to 30 seconds, leaving little time for jamming and countermeasures--let alone bringing to bear missiles and quick-firing artillery. Unlike past decades, when U.S. warships were constructed with aluminum superstructures (which were 35 to 45 percent lighter than steel and assisted a vessel's speed and maneuverability), current American warships, like the Arleigh Burke-class destroyers that are primary components in a U.S. carrier group, generally have steel superstructures. Nevertheless, al Qaeda's attack on the U.S.S. Cole in 2000 provides some insight into what a Moskit can do. The Cole, an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer with steel armor, was docked in Aden harbor when a small craft exploded against its port side, putting a 40-by-40-foot (12-by-12 meter) gash in the Cole's flank. That explosion was the result of as much as 600 pounds of explosive. The Cole's vulnerability suggests that any of Iran's Russian-made Moskit missiles, and their 750-pound warheads, are potential ship-killers.

The Falklands War has been much pondered by military analysts. John Arquilla, professor at the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School, says: "The Exocet missile definitely proved the vulnerability of the slow-moving big ship." The key to the U.K.'s Falklands victory, Arquilla continues, was that the British calculated how to put their two aircraft carriers beyond the range of Argentinean air attacks while still enabling British aircraft to hit Argentinean forces. That lesson has applications for the challenge that the U.S. Navy may soon face in the Persian Gulf. Yes, the Gulf's north shore belongs to Iran and is potentially a platform for their cruise missiles. True, any ship within the Gulf, including ships docked at the U.S. Fifth Fleet's base in Bahrain, could theoretically be targeted from across the Gulf or from speedboats and helicopters that the Iranians have purportedly adapted as mobile platforms for their missiles. In practice, however, America has and will maintain complete air dominance.

That means that if America stands off its naval assets over the horizon, the Iranians have three options: they can aim their missiles at targets in visible range, employ radar-guided missiles to acquire over-the-horizon targets, or else use sea-based platforms to launch missiles. In all those cases, they will immediately become vulnerable to U.S. retaliation from the air. The Iranians would likely only get one chance at launching their cruise missiles before their platforms were destroyed.

Yet what if the Iranians could launch swarms of hundreds of missiles simultaneously? All bets might be off. In such a scenario, the Iranians could conceivably devastate an American naval force. Do the Iranians possess enough missiles to do that? The truth is that we don't know, as the congressional report released on Thursday, August 24, concluded. In terms the threat level, independent analyst John Pike puts it this way: "Iran is a riddle wrapped in an enigma."

In the longer term, the trend seems clear. Iran developed its first indigenous 32-bit microprocessor last month. Like mounted cavalry faced by the machine gun in 1914 or the battleship confronted by aerial attack in 1941, the U.S. aircraft carrier battle group seems likely to become increasingly a giant, slow-moving target when an enemy can fire swarms of self-guiding cruise missiles from hundreds of miles away. "Sixty-odd years ago, the German admiral Durnitz had in his office a picture of the ocean with a few gulls and a sunlit sea," John Arquilla says. "Durnitz would point to this picture when his U-boat skippers visited him and say, ‘That is the future of naval warfare--there will be no great vessels, only submarines and aircraft.' In 21st-century sea warfare, expect the rise of sea power without a navy."

Evo još linkova koji možeš pogledat
http://www.rense.com/general59/theSunburniransawesome.htm

http://globalpolitician.com/21690-russia-iran

http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/.....idal.shtml

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Kolega Nelsa, na postovima koje si iznio vidio sam mnogo fotki iranskih brzih čamaca, raketnih i torpednih, kao i onih naoružanih VBR-ovima. Vidio sam i njihove brodove sa raketama Noor i Harpoon. Sve je to dio arsenala za tzv. asimetrično ratovanje. Ali mi se čini da ta velika flota ima dramatično pomanjkanje zaštite od prijetnji iz zraka, prije svega od napada helikoptera ili naoružanih UAV...Nisam vidio ni jedan čamac ili manji brod koji ima PVO, osim Jamaran fregata, ali njih ima mali broj....Jesam li nešto propustio vidjeti ili..? Možeš li dati neku informaciju o tome, pošto ja stvarne ne mogu skontati kako bi se branili od toga.

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^ mozda igla/strela u rukama posade. nije nesto, ali nije da nije...

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Napisano: 24 Jan 2012 21:47

Svi KAJMAN,SINA ,TONDAR... su naoružani sa SM-1,HQ-7 ili MEHRAB PVO sistemima i to su najmanja plovila koja imaju PVO zaštitu sve manje od toga nema osim MANPAD ništa više uostalom i netreba im jer će djelovati u priobalnom djelu koji je zaštićen ili uz pratnju ovih naoružanih,jednostavno tako mala plovila nemožeš naoružati tako da nose i ASM ,torpeda i PVO sisteme u ostalom tako mali čamac da bi pogodio iz zraka moraš se spustiti u domet MANPADS sistema a ako uzmeš domet MANPAD sistema koje proizvode kao i onih kupljeni to je bolje nego da ih naoružaju sa manjm SHORAD sistemima i tako smanje prostor za ASM I torpeda.

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Napisano: 25 Jan 2012 12:13

Naletio sam na dokument u kojem su svi medijski,obavještajni ,izvještaji vladini agencija..itd o svim isporukama oružija ,sklopljenim ugovorima ,prenosu tehnologije ....prema Iranu.
Dokument je ogroman i najinteresantnije stvari ću postavljat u djelovima ,biće interesantno vidjeti kakvi su medijski ,obavještajni..izvještaji bili od 1980-2010.
Takodje za svaki sklopljeni ugovor,isporuku oružija ispod teksta stoji ko je i kad objavio informaciju, objavljene su neki podaci koji nisu potvrdjeni ali je to ispod teksta naglašeno kao i kratak opis na čemu se i na osnovu kojih izvještaja temelji ta informacija,takodje skoro svaki podatak je objavljen više puta iz razlićitih izvora.
Uglavnom naj interesantni dio je od '88 do 2000 i informacije iz tog perioda o otvaranju raketni tvornica Kineski projektila i isporukama oružija,stekne se dojam da su kupovali gdje god su šta stigli.

Evo primjer kako izgleda ta ,možemo je nazvati hronologijia Iranskog naoružavanja:


































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thunder ::Kolega Nelsa, na postovima koje si iznio vidio sam mnogo fotki iranskih brzih čamaca, raketnih i torpednih, kao i onih naoružanih VBR-ovima. Vidio sam i njihove brodove sa raketama Noor i Harpoon. Sve je to dio arsenala za tzv. asimetrično ratovanje. Ali mi se čini da ta velika flota ima dramatično pomanjkanje zaštite od prijetnji iz zraka, prije svega od napada helikoptera ili naoružanih UAV...Nisam vidio ni jedan čamac ili manji brod koji ima PVO, osim Jamaran fregata, ali njih ima mali broj....Jesam li nešto propustio vidjeti ili..? Možeš li dati neku informaciju o tome, pošto ja stvarne ne mogu skontati kako bi se branili od toga.

Ne ostaju takvi brodovi dugo vremena izloženi, to su brzi gliseri koji su čuvaju u zaleđu a mogu se braniti od napada iz vazduha i sa kopna, kada krenu u napad to traje jako kratko, i nisu laka meta...

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zoki_78 ::Pa kada ce kazu da je zatvoren, evo i Britanska mornarica se uputila dole.....Iranci ce da popuste na kraju....

Ne vjerujem, pa i ako popuste...sljedi več poznano....demontaža države u banana državu....sa prozapadnom vlaščom in demontaža ratne mašinerije. Iran tjeraju velikom brzinom u čorsak, pa se može svašta desit, kad neče imat ništa više da izgubi, počne rat.

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