KF-21 "Hawk"

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KFX je korejski program za razvoj sopstvenog aviona 5. generacije,po nekim navodima prilikom razvoja trebalo bi da saradjuju sa Amerikancima.

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South Korea studies Western proposals for fighter programme
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South Korea is studying proposals from Western manufacturers for its KFX fighter programme, with the details of a feasibility study into an indigenously designed and produced fifth-generation aircraft likely to be released around the end of 2007.

The programme, however, faces two major hurdles that could scuttle its development, say industry sources. The first is a likely 20-year gestation period, during which similar aircraft such as the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter are likely to become available. The second is a price tag of several billion dollars in the pre-production stage itself, which may make the economics of the aircraft untenable.

Presentations to the Agency for Defence Development from Boeing, Lockheed Martin, the Eurofighter consortium, Dassault and Saab focused on possible technology transfer and the potential market for the aircraft. The agency oversees the KFX, Korea Aerospace Industries, which has licence-produced the Lockheed Martin F-16 and jointly developed the T-50 advanced jet trainer with Lockheed, will be the main contractor and work with any Western partner.

There is still much uncertainty over the programme, with one Seoul-based source saying: "Even the Koreans themselves are not sure what they want. The KFX is still not well defined." The Western manufacturers, however, are ready to lend their expertise.

"Lockheed is very keen in helping South Korea in the KFX programme. We have helped Japan develop its F-2 fighters and Taiwan its Indigenous Defence Fighter in the past, and that shows that we have more experience in such programmes than the other companies," says Kim Yong-Ho, Lockheed's senior vice-president in charge of South Korea.

Seoul is keen in finding out about technology such as avionics, fly-by-wire systems, flight computers, and stealth capabilities from the companies. Sources say that it is targeting a single-seat, twin-engined aircraft with a total thrust of at least 40,000lb (180kN). The agency is believed to have at least two concepts on paper, one resembling the Lockheed F-22 and the other the Eurofighter Typhoon, but a final plan is some time away.

After the agency publishes its initial findings, industry sources expect a year or so of national debate before a decision is made. The agency hopes that the aircraft will be in service by 2020, but industry sources say that this is overly optimistic.

"Why spend billions when the F-35 will already be in the market by the time you are done? Even export sales are unlikely, going by Japan's experience with the F-2 and Taiwan with the IDF," says one industry source. "If South Korea goes ahead, it is more due to national pride than anything else. Based on the cost and the amount of time it would take to come up with an aircraft, the KFX simply does not make sense."
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Ove slike su od nekih Koreanaca









Takodje imamo i pricu da je SAAB nudio/nudi Koreancima razvoj lovca 5. generacije.




Trazio sam ali nesto ne nalazim neke informacije o tome da li se projekat stvarno radi...pa ako neko ima neki info.......

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Naleteo sam par puta na ovaj avion, uglavnom Amerikanci se cude sto Koreanci ne zele da kupe F-35 itd. I gledajuci njega i onaj kineski koncept, od kojih svi imaju kanarde, pitaju se jel' oni znaju nesto sto mi ne znamo... Mnogo mlacenja prazne slame, ali ovo nece skorije poleteti. Ne osporavam zavrsetak projekta, ali nece skoro.

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Odlaganje projekta novog lovca i borbenog helikoptera zbog rezanja budzeta

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Dopuna: 12 Jun 2010 12:06

Juzna Koreja bi mogla da nastavi projekat zajedno sa Indonezijom koja je zainteresovana da udje u projekat.

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Dopuna: 17 Jul 2010 1:01

Novi tekst o saradnji sa Indonezijom.
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South Korea and Indonesia signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) July 15 to jointly develop a 4.5-generation fighter jet with greater capabilities than those of the KF-16.

Indonesia agreed to bear 20 percent of the development costs of the 5 trillion won ($4.1 billion) project over the next decade, according to South Korea's Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA). South Korea plans to foot 60 percent of the bill, with the balance to come from other government or corporate partners.

The two Asian countries will work together in production and marketing of the KF-X aircraft. Indonesia also agreed to buy about 50 KF-X aircraft when mass production begins.

The agreement follows a KF-X letter of intent signed in March 2009 by South Korean President Lee Myung-bak during a visit to Indonesia.

The MoU is "the reflection of our commitment and strong bilateral cooperation in the fields of defense industry," Eris Herryanto, the director general of defense facilities at Indonesia's Defense Ministry, said in a speech ahead of the signing ceremony here with DAPA Commissioner Byun Moo-keun at South Korea's Defense Ministry.

"I'm confident that through signing this MoU on joint development of the KF-X Fighter, the outcome of cooperation shall be implemented at its earliest convenience," Herryanto said. "The realization of joint development, production and marketing will be finalized with our very own maximum of development capability."

Col. Lee Jong-hee, director of DAPA's KF-X development team, said his agency is negotiating with Turkey and the United Arab Emirates on investments in the KF-X program.

"There are two options on the table. One is to lure financial investments from other nations, such as Turkey and the United Arab Emirates," Lee said. "The other is to receive investments from Western aircraft makers wishing to participate in the KF-X."

Boeing and Lockheed Martin of the United States, the European defense group EADS and Sweden's Saab have shown their interest in the KF-X program, which is linked to South Korea's F-X III fighter acquisition competition set for next year. Under the F-X III program, South Korea plans to purchase 40 to 60 stealthy fighters.

Initiated in 2002, the KF-X program was originally aimed at producing and marketing about 120 aircraft, stealthier than Dassault's Rafale or the Eurofighter Typhoon, but not as stealthy as Lockheed's F-35 Lightning II.

Due to questions about the program's economic and technical feasibility, the South Korean government refocused the requirement last year to produce fighter jets on par with the F-16 Block 50 to replace older F-4 and F-5 aircraft.

Key requirements for the KF-X include an active electronically scanned array radar, an electronic warfare suite, an infrared search-and-track system, super-velocity intercept and supercruise capabilities, and air-to-air, air-to-ground and air-to-sea capabilities.

In the first 11 years of exploratory and full-scale development, about 120 KF-Xs would be built, and more than 130 aircraft would be produced after the first-phase models reach initial operational capability.

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Da se nadovezem na prethodni moj post. Pored Indonezije prve konkretne vesti od Turaka.

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Citat:“Turkey’s air force operates about 180 F-16 aircraft, and there will be a requirement to replace the older fighters with newer ones by 2020,” the two-star Air Force general said. “Once on board, Turkey is expected to bear the same amount of development costs as Indonesia.”

Cha said the KF-X, which was initiated in 2002 but postponed due to financial and technological problems, will start next year with the consent of budget authorities.


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Nesto su mi ove cifre cudne? Doduse, Koreja vec ima dosta raspoloživih resursa, tehnologije... Ucesce Indonezije je 20% od 4,1 milijarde dolara, ili oko 820 miliona USD u periodu od decenije, sto izadje na 82 miliona USD godisnje?

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Turska je objavila da bi do 2023. trebali da pored novijih F-16 i F-35 imaju i jedan "domaci" lovac. Opet se pominje moguca saradnja sa Korejom.

Citat:Defence minister Vecdi Gonul says Ankara is aware of South Korea's plans to field a new fighter through its own KF-X programme. "It is not clear at the moment, but we will make cooperation about the next-generation fighter," he says. Korea Aerospace Industries is still seeking international partners for its KF-X development, with Indonesia also having expressed interest.

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South Korea is moving to introduce the fifth generation of stealth fighter jets at an early date....


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Južni koreanci imaju oficielno izgovor zbog S. Koreje dok je istinska pretnja Kina. Očekujem i kod Japanaca ubrzanje programa za nevidljivog lovca. Nego nešto mi J-20 neodoljivo podseća na gore objavljenu korejsku maketu koja bi bila idealna sa jednim umesto sa dva motora. Na taj način bi se nešto malo povećali i spremnici za oružje.

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Misljenja sam da ni J.Koreja a ni Japan nece razvijati borbeni avion 5. generacije. Naravno ni Turska.

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djox ::South Korea is moving to introduce the fifth generation of stealth fighter jets at an early date....


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Hm ovo nema veze sa domacim lovcem vec sa kupovinom stranog lovca 5generacije.

Dopuna: 30 Jan 2011 14:30

zixo ::Nista bez dovoljno jakih motora, zbog superkrstarenja.

Sve zavisi od zahteva a i volje Amera da im prodaju najjacu varijantu GE motora (npr. F414 EDE).