MIG-21 "Fishbed"

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MIG-21 "Fishbed"

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Pa sve 3 stranice tog foruma ,pogotovo druga stranica na kojoj ste vi bili aktivni . Smile

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Pokusavam da nadjem sto vise slika kabina finskih F-13 ali jako tesko to ide ... Confused

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Pokusavam da nadjem sto vise slika kabina finskih F-13 ali jako tesko to ide ... Confused

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Tesko, tesko -Finci i vjerojatno nemaju.
Dobio sam nekoliko fotografija s MiG-21bis MGBT [ verzija reconnaissance 21bis ], ali nažalost nepotpuna Sad













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Tragajuci za nekim podacima naletim na jedan interesantan sajt a to je

Forgotten Jets izdanju i lik koji je naumio eto da skupi podatke i slike i sve ostalo sto ide ( obicno su to podaci o ser./br. ,fabr./br.,Bort/br itd.itd ... tzv registri ) za prakticno sve proizvedene `Keceve` ...

Evo sta on pise o tome

Mikoyan-Gurevitch MiG-21 Fishbed/Mongol series

Citat:I’ve always wanted to research the MiG-21, but with over 10,000 examples built, it seemed like too big a project. But then I got bored and decided, hey, why the hell not? So here is what I can dig up on the Fishbed (and the trainer Mongol as well), divided up by nations in alphabetical order. I’m going against my usual form and listing these by painted-on serial numbers versus official factory construction numbers, though I have those noted in the rare cases where those are available.

NOTE: I’m NOT going to bother with the Chinese-built versions here (J-7/F-7), but I am going to include the Czech and Indian-built versions. Maybe I’ll add the Chinese copies later (or not).

This page is obviously incomplete, but I am adding to it when I can find new info or photos, so I suspect it will continue to grow over time. As always, help is appreciated.

At the end of this page is a list of people who have graciously offered their help. Thank you all very much!


Arrow http://www.millionmonkeytheater.com/Fishbed.html

Fino on to ... a eto mi mozemo da se pozabavimo nasim tj. onim sto su svoju karijeru poceli u RV- PVO SFRJ ,neki je tu zavrsili a neki opet nastavili kroz novonastale VS-e ( RV-PVO VJ/SCG,V-PVO VS i HRZ ).

Inace slike i podatke nasih je dobio od naseg kolege topalovicdj a neke podatke i informacije ( one osnovne ) imamo na

Arrow http://www.mycity-military.com/Avioni/MIG-21-Fishbed_548.html

svakako poznati materijal kolege zixo nastao povodom 50 god. upotrebe Keceva .

E sad zamislimo samo registar ovih 261 avion ( malo slike ,malo podaci) . Mozda neko vec ima ?

Skinuo sam neke fotke ,ne sve ,onako bolje i u vecoj rez. pa evo ih ovako da makar nesto imamo u jednom postu .... neke se ponavljaju, neke i ne ali je bolje imati ovako nego pojedinacno po stranicama teme .

Stavicu ih po brojcanom redu sluzbenih vojnih oznaka RV i redosledno po ev. br. onako `na prekoske`.

MiG-21F-13 , izd.74 , L-12 (41 avion sa ev.br. 22501-22541)




MiG-21U-400 , izd.66-400, NL-12 (4 aviona sa ev.br. 22901-22904)



MiG-21U-600, izd.66-600 , NL-12M (14 aviona sa ev.br. 22905-22918)



MiG-21PFM , izd.94A, L-14 (36 aviona sa ev.br 22701-22736)



MiG-21R , izd.94R , L-14i ( 12 aviona sa ev.br 26101-26112)



MiG-21US, izd.68, NL-14 (4 aviona sa ev.br. 22951-22954)



MiG-21M , izd.96, L-15 (25 aviona sa ev.br. 22801-22825)




MiG-21MF, izd.96F, L-15M (6 aviona sa ev.br. 22865-22870)



MiG-21UM, izd.69, NL-14M i NL-16 (28 aviona ukupno ,3 aviona sa ev.br. 22955-22957 i 25 aviona sa ev.br. 16151-16160 i 16171-16185)





MiG-21bis-SAU, izd.75B, L-17 (46 aviona sa ev.br.17101-17112 ,17125-17137,17151-17171)



MiG-21bis-LAZUR ,izd.75A , L-17K (45 aviona sa ev.br. 17201-17235 i 17401-17410)




Napomena : 3 dvoseda aviona nabavljena avg.1971 nisu US vec UM izd.69 sto dokazuje njihov fabr.br.

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Citat:Those three aircraft you referred to are actually UM versions. Yugoslavia received those aircrafts at the and of the August 1971 and at that moment Soviets are able to deliver only UM version, considering that US version were not in production since 1970. Actually, YAF have ordered 7 aircrafts of US version and first 4 US (22951-22953) has been delivered in October 1970. But MiG was not able to deliver all 7 US aircrafts, so the rest of three aircraft delivered were UM version. Upon arrival of those three aircraft to YAF, they were marked as NL-14 (MiG-21US) and assigned in the units with USs. US has been manufactured from 1966-1970 (347 pcs) and UM from 1971-1974 (1133 pcs). Initial versions of UM (including those three YAF aircraft) came with R-11F2S-300 and later with R-13-300.

For first four MiG-21US delivered in October 1970, factory numbers were:

22951 01685149
22952 02685149
22953 03685149
22954 05685149

For last three MiG-21(UM) (designated in YAF as US) delivered at the end of August 1971, factory numbers were:

22955 04695158
22956 05695158
22957 06695158

So as you can see, first four aircrafts were izdelye 68 (US) and last three were izdelye 69 (UM). Moreover, 22955-22957 were equipped with AP 155 autopilot and AoA sensor DUA-3a is integral part of AP 155. Those are the initial production versions of UM and they didn't have the blade antenna. Considering that all later productions UMs were equipped with blade antenna, confusion was created.
On the following photos you can see 22957. As you can see on the second photo, 22957 (second in line) do not have blade antenna.


Ostatak info ,slike i podaci na (mislim da smo ovo svarili sve do sada ...ali da se zna )

Arrow http://il2forum.pl/index.php?topic=12081.270

Dakle ti avioni mozda jesu interno oznacavani kao NL-14M (MiG-21US iako su bili UM ) isto kao sto su bis-SAU i bis-LAZUR oznacavani kao bis i bis-K ?

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За та три авиона морали би да видимо које моторе имају и каква опрема је унутар авиона.

Да би били сто посто сигурни да су рани УМ.

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Pa pise za motore u prvom pasusu onog citata drugar .

Citat:Initial versions of UM (including those three YAF aircraft) came with R-11F2S-300 and later with R-13-300.

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Evo nam nekih detalja o UM

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Citat:На самолете установлен турбореактивный двигатель Р11Ф2С-300 с осевым двухвальным компрессором и форсажной камерой, с плавной регулировкой тяги на форсажных режимах. Управление двигателем спаренное и может осуществляться как из кабины учлета, так и из кабины инструктора.
Источник: Самолет МиГ-21УМ с двигателем Р11Ф2С-300. Техническое описание. Книга 1. 1975 г.


i o US

Arrow http://russianarms.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=1956

i prirucnik /Flight Manual / za US/UM

Arrow http://www.slideshare.net/mishanbgd/mig21-usum-flight-manual-with-wb-manual

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Јеси ли ти сигуран да тај лик сигурно зна које су моторе имала та три авиона?

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Pa info prenose iz tehnicke knjige ciji je naslov dat na forumu .Ako knjiga tako kaze zasto onda sumnjati ?

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Подсети ме која је књига?

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Citat:Источник: Самолет МиГ-21УМ с двигателем Р11Ф2С-300. Техническое описание. Книга 1. 1975 г.

Valjda je pravi izvor ,mislim pouzdan . Smile

Evo je ... Wink

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