Rat u Ukrajini - 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021. godina

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Rat u Ukrajini - 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021. godina

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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Sankcije su trenutka donošenja tamo 2014, vremenski limitirane na 6 meseci. I na svakih 6 meseci se ponovo glasa o njima.
I zemlje EU su saglasne sa njima i moraju ih poštovati, to su ozbiljne stvari vidi se i po izvozima u Rusiju.
Ali kompanije nalaza zaobilazne metode prodaje i trgovine. To ti kažem.
Nove sankcije i pretnje njima dolaze ukoliko dodje do rata. Ovo su sankcije manje više iz perioda 2014.

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Rusija objavila tekst sporazuma o bezbjednosti sa US i slicnog sporazuma sa NATO. Oba teksta su urucena americkom predstavniku i predstavljaju formalizaciju Ruskih zahtjeva o kojima je Putin govorio sa Bajdenom.

Tekst sporazuma sa USA

Citat:have agreed as follows:

Article 1

The Parties shall cooperate on the basis of principles of indivisible, equal and undiminished security and to these ends:

shall not undertake actions nor participate in or support activities that affect the security of the other Party;

shall not implement security measures adopted by each Party individually or in the framework of an international organization, military alliance or coalition that could undermine core security interests of the other Party.

Article 2

The Parties shall seek to ensure that all international organizations, military alliances and coalitions in which at least one of the Parties is taking part adhere to the principles contained in the Charter of the United Nations.

Article 3

The Parties shall not use the territories of other States with a view to preparing or carrying out an armed attack against the other Party or other actions affecting core security interests of the other Party.

Article 4

The United States of America shall undertake to prevent further eastward expansion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and deny accession to the Alliance to the States of the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The United States of America shall not establish military bases in the territory of the States of the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics that are not members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, use their infrastructure for any military activities or develop bilateral military cooperation with them.

Article 5

The Parties shall refrain from deploying their armed forces and armaments, including in the framework of international organizations, military alliances or coalitions, in the areas where such deployment could be perceived by the other Party as a threat to its national security, with the exception of such deployment within the national territories of the Parties.

The Parties shall refrain from flying heavy bombers equipped for nuclear or non-nuclear armaments or deploying surface warships of any type, including in the framework of international organizations, military alliances or coalitions, in the areas outside national airspace and national territorial waters respectively, from where they can attack targets in the territory of the other Party.

The Parties shall maintain dialogue and cooperate to improve mechanisms to prevent dangerous military activities on and over the high seas, including agreeing on the maximum approach distance between warships and aircraft.

Article 6

The Parties shall undertake not to deploy ground-launched intermediate-range and shorter-range missiles outside their national territories, as well as in the areas of their national territories, from which such weapons can attack targets in the national territory of the other Party.

Article 7

The Parties shall refrain from deploying nuclear weapons outside their national territories and return such weapons already deployed outside their national territories at the time of the entry into force of the Treaty to their national territories. The Parties shall eliminate all existing infrastructure for deployment of nuclear weapons outside their national territories.

The Parties shall not train military and civilian personnel from non-nuclear countries to use nuclear weapons. The Parties shall not conduct exercises or training for general-purpose forces, that include scenarios involving the use of nuclear weapons.

https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/nato/1790818/?lang=en


Tekst sporazuma sa NATO

Citat:Article 1

The Parties shall guide in their relations by the principles of cooperation, equal and indivisible security. They shall not strengthen their security individually, within international organizations, military alliances or coalitions at the expense of the security of other Parties.

The Parties shall settle all international disputes in their mutual relations by peaceful means and refrain from the use or threat of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.

The Parties shall not create conditions or situations that pose or could be perceived as a threat to the national security of other Parties.

The Parties shall exercise restraint in military planning and conducting exercises to reduce risks of eventual dangerous situations in accordance with their obligations under international law, including those set out in intergovernmental agreements on the prevention of incidents at sea outside territorial waters and in the airspace above, as well as in intergovernmental agreements on the prevention of dangerous military activities.

Article 2

In order to address issues and settle problems, the Parties shall use the mechanisms of urgent bilateral or multilateral consultations, including the NATO-Russia Council.

The Parties shall regularly and voluntarily exchange assessments of contemporary threats and security challenges, inform each other about military exercises and maneuvers, and main provisions of their military doctrines. All existing mechanisms and tools for confidence-building measures shall be used in order to ensure transparency and predictability of military activities.

Telephone hotlines shall be established to maintain emergency contacts between the Parties.

Article 3

The Parties reaffirm that they do not consider each other as adversaries.

The Parties shall maintain dialogue and interaction on improving mechanisms to prevent incidents on and over the high seas (primarily in the Baltics and the Black Sea region).

Article 4

The Russian Federation and all the Parties that were member States of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization as of 27 May 1997, respectively, shall not deploy military forces and weaponry on the territory of any of the other States in Europe in addition to the forces stationed on that territory as of 27 May 1997. With the consent of all the Parties such deployments can take place in exceptional cases to eliminate a threat to security of one or more Parties.

Article 5

The Parties shall not deploy land-based intermediate- and short-range missiles in areas allowing them to reach the territory of the other Parties.

Article 6

All member States of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization commit themselves to refrain from any further enlargement of NATO, including the accession of Ukraine as well as other States.

Article 7

The Parties that are member States of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization shall not conduct any military activity on the territory of Ukraine as well as other States in the Eastern Europe, in the South Caucasus and in Central Asia.

In order to exclude incidents the Russian Federation and the Parties that are member States of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization shall not conduct military exercises or other military activities above the brigade level in a zone of agreed width and configuration on each side of the border line of the Russian Federation and the states in a military alliance with it, as well as Parties that are member States of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

Article 8

This Agreement shall not affect and shall not be interpreted as affecting the primary responsibility of the Security Council of the United Nations for maintaining international peace and security, nor the rights and obligations
of the Parties under the Charter of the United Nations.

https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/nato/1790803/?lang=en&clear_cache=Y

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Prebacila je loptu u njihovo dvorište. A odgovor šta mislite?

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Шта мислите да је Трамп на власти да ли би потписали споразум?
А можда имају некакав тајни анекс везан за Ј. Америку?

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Ja ne vidim šta SAD i NATO dobijaju sa ovim ? Ako Bajden na ovo pristane Republikanci mogu već da slave pobedu na izborima 2024.

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Verovatno će odbiti ruski predlog. Ipak im treba konfrontacija.
Ali ovako makar Rusi stavljaju do znanja da su otvoreni za konstruktivan dialog i da ako ne dodje do diplomatskog rešenja, to nije do njih.
Naravno, Ameri će uz pomoć medija okrenuti priču na foru "zlí Rusi su krivi za sve"

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Kakav konstruktivni dijalog ? Pa ovo više liči na ponudu za kapitulaciju zapada nego na dijalog.

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Неко је писао нешто о одвојеним школама за странце. Не знам, не могу да тврдим да није истина али ми је јако тешко да у то поверујем.
Као странац сам се школовао у Италији и Шпанији а прошао сам и кроз домаћи систем образовања и ја тако нешто никада нисам доживео нити чуо. У Италији, уистину, постоје школе само за Србе, али искључиво као допунске и оне су део министарства просвете републике Србије! Сви запослени у тим школама примају плату из Србије и раде са привременим радним дозволама за међународне мисије. У сваком случају, похађање ових школа не мења обавезне школе.
Моја ћерка похађа италијанску школу и приликом уписа сам сам бирао у коју школу да је упишем.

Од мене крај OFFa


Ја сам о томе писао и стојим иза тога ,а реч је о НЕМАЧКОЈ, не шпанији или италији...исто је и у швајцарској...Имам тамо најбољег друга, дете му је уписано у мешовиту школу деце са балкана...не у швапску...


Gde su te škole, jel imaš ti nešto crno na belo?????Postoje škole, ali se ne zovu Škole za strance.Po nemačkom zakonu od,negde od 2007-me čini mi se, obaveza je da polaznik u osnovnu školu ima osnovna znanja iz jezika.Segregacije po tom pitanju nema.Sistem je tako napravljen da se djeca postepeno i na bezbolan način socijalizuju.A ko brže uči jezik od djece.Postoje škole koje ne pohađaju njemačka djeca a to su škole na jezicima naroda koji tamo žive.Ali te škole pohađaju samo ukoliko NEžele da pohađaju njemačke škole i u njih se ne ide po sili zakona.
To o ćemu ti pišeš nema veze sa segregacijom.Ako ne želiš da ideš u tu školu nije problem i te škole postoje još od 60-ih godina prošlog vijeka.A tematika mi je poznata zbog toga pošto imam unuku koja sledeće godine treba da krene u školu pa sam malo proučio tematiku.
Kraj OFF-a

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