Specijalna vojna operacija u Ukrajini, 2024. komentari

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@Drug Pukovnik
to je to, sigurno.
laserski daljinomjer na 10 metara detonira, tako sam nešto i pretpostavio. To ima veliki nedostatak da može detonirati prerano zbog magle ili jake kiše.

s druge strane korištenje barometarskog visinomjera radi uvijek, ali zahtijevalo bi unos zadane vrijednosti atm. tlaka u svaku pojedinačnu bombicu, što bi se moglo napraviti beskontaktno, ali bi bilo dosta zahtjevno i tražilo održavanje.

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Ova drla od rata opasno eskalira, pocev od upada preko granice,preko udara na rafinerije do neselektivnog raketiranja centra Belgoroda. Znaci ocigledno je da zapad trazi odgovor Rusije bilo kakav samo da bi uprli prstom i rekli "to je to" i ameri a i eu bi odobrili novac, tauruse, f16, thaad-ove...
Rusi medjutim cute a bolje bi im bilo da smisljaju neko vrlo bolan (ne vojni) udarac ali ne po ukrajini...

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In light of a series of attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Russian refineries, we asked an expert on the domestic oil and gas complex to comment on this strategy of Kyiv.
“Ukraine has intensified targeted attacks on Russian oil facilities since the beginning of 2024. We are seeing an increasing number of attacks on fuel depots and oil refineries.
There are quite a lot of the first ones in Russia, and they are technologically quite simple. Therefore, if it gets into fuel tanks, it causes rather tactical short-term problems: the fuel itself burns out. But petroleum products can be replenished, and a storage tank is built quickly and inexpensively. In the case of attacks on oil refineries , the situation is more serious .
A processing plant is a technologically complex facility. Its repair is currently complicated by sanctions. Those. Since 2022, our companies have been adjusting to work without supplies of equipment for oil refining from Western countries, and now there is also the threat of an attack on refineries.
It is significant that Ukraine is trying to hit refineries specializing in the production of gasoline. In particular, attacks were carried out on the Nizhny Novgorod Oil Refinery . This plant produces about 10% of all gasoline in Russia. The fact is that we produce twice as much diesel fuel per year as we consume, i.e. 50% goes for export. But in gasoline, 90% of the produced volume goes to the domestic market and only 10% is exported. At the same time, the same Nizhny Novgorod refinery has been under repair since December 2023 due to equipment failure. It turns out that we are already producing approximately as much gasoline as we consume. That is why the Russian Government introduced a ban on the export of gasoline, but not diesel. So that the export of gasoline does not lead to a shortage.
Ukraine wants to knock out refining capacity in order to create a deficit in the gasoline market. This makes no sense from a military point of view, since army equipment uses diesel. But Kiev’s goal is rather socio-political . A shortage of gasoline should cause an increase in prices, which means it will increase people’s dissatisfaction, the growth of protest sentiments and general destabilization. Since gasoline is the fuel of civilian private cars. But in practice, the Russian government has all the tools to block price increases at gas stations.
Firstly , fuel reserves have been created, thanks to the previously introduced export ban. Secondly , by changing the tax regime, the government can influence the selling prices of fuel (about 80% of the price per liter of gasoline is taxes and government fees). Thirdly , in the event of a physical shortage of gasoline, Russia can organize supplies from Belarusian refineries that are currently underutilized: we will supply more oil there, take back the resulting petroleum products, and pay for the processing service). But at present, Ukraine has not managed to inflict any critical damage to reduce the supply of gasoline from refineries to our domestic market."

Igor Yushkov,
Leading analyst of the National Energy Security Fund, expert of the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation.

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Rusi im ove zime poštede elektroenergetski sistem, naravno Ukri takvih dilema nemaju.

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Sto se tice odbrane bitnih objekata infrastrukture bjeloruska Spectehnika razvila je projekat stacionarnih, zemaljskih daljinski upravljanih vatrenih stanica. Lepeza naoruzanja od 7,62 do 23mm + PoRV i LRPS + blokovi osmatranja. Sa jednim centrom upravljanja. Tada su u prospektu navodili bas ovo sto se desava sa rafinerijama, aerodromima, pominjali su i nuklearne elektrane. Osim vazdusnih dronova tada su pominjali i ultra lake letjelice + zemaljske dronove poput kamiona sa eksplozivom. Sredstvo je tada izgledalo pretjerano paranoidno ali evo sve se nekako obistinilo. Moguce je da projekat sada pripada Rostehnici ali valjda pripada klubu sredstava koji se pretpostavljao nekom arapskom naruciocu, a ne Belgorodsko - obojanskoj oblasti.

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U vezi ovog 'rata rafinerija' gospodin sa obrnutom kartom bi rekao da se to namjerno radi i sa ruske strane. Sto vise pogodjenih rafinerija to skuplje gorivo.

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To bi bilo klanje vola zbog par kila mesa.

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On kaze da bi renovirao kafanu moras prvo da je zapalis. Zajedno sa gostima.

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bufanje ::Sto se tice tih rafinerija najbolje bi im bilo da zaprijete preko nekih kanala da ce im skrsiti onaj sistem elektricnog snabdjevanja ili nesto kapitalno i bitno za infrastrukturu zemlje.
Tesko ce oni ovako moci da zaustave ove napade.
Pa njma i treba eskalacija, zato to i rade.

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Zasto klanje vola zbog kila mesa? To je ulaganje u infrastrukturu, nema veze, 20-50 miliona. To je dzeparac za oligarhe, jedna jahta manje nikakav problem ali imas pvo u rafineriji koji radi i protiv ukra i protiv rusa ako zatreba

@bojank izgleda si mislio na komentar da rusi pustaju udare na rafinerije da bi poskupili gorivo - tu se slazem, glupost par ekselans jerbo ne mogu Rusi uticati na globalne cijene bez dogovora unutar opek-a)

S druge pak strane citam budalastine tipa napad na rafinerije je s ciljem da se smanji proizvodnja poskupi gorivo pa se digne narod na Putina ja evo priucen pa znam da je trziste naftom sistem spojenih posuda tako da smanjenje proizvodnje u Rusiji ce izazvati skok cijena globalno pa ce prije svabo i ceh cak i amerikanac (kao u onom klipu o hepeku) da ga izduva nego rus. Rusi mogu svom narodu da sipaju za dzabaka kao Gadafi i Sadam ako bude stani pani a racun ce da plati neko drugi (Ameri npr koji su i trenutno najveci uvoznici).
Gdje se skoluju ovi strucnjaci? Mi smo se sa pokojnim Lazanskim znali posprdno komentarisati jer je ponekad fulao a realno je giga mega ekspert za ovaj novi globalni soj ludaka...

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Koliko ukri imaju tih mobilnih ekipa sa teskim mitraljezima pa se polome dok ne skinu neki geranj. I kad znaju da je tamo negde mrak je i moze da im pobegne. Nije te dronove toliko lako pogoditi. Kad sam video snimke drona kako se zalece u rafineriju danju siguran sam da bi ga skinuli da je bilo tamo necega. Ali nocu, tesko.

Dalje, mozes ga gadjati samo dok prilazi, nakon neke tacke iza pocinje rafinerija, i nema vise senlucenja.