MIG-21 "Fishbed"

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Jyrki Laukkanen - MiG-21 in Finnish Air Force

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Interesantna knjiga.
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Što je ispod krila ? Kontejner za izviđanje ? Rezervoar od MiG-15 ?

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kolega babcia f-13 ne moze da nosi rezervoare pod krilima. mislim moze da ih zakaci na bombo-nosace ali ne moze da spaja u gorivnu instalaciju. no ovo ste znali vec

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kolega babcia f-13 ne moze da nosi rezervoare pod krilima. mislim moze da ih zakaci na bombo-nosace ali ne moze da spaja u gorivnu instalaciju. no ovo ste znali vec
To znam
Registrirao sam se u finskoj Foruma -možda i oni će znati

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MiG-21 Airworthiness Certification

Citat:This document provides information to assist in the airworthiness certification and safe civil operation of a Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 airplane.

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Jyrki Laukkanen - MiG-21 in Finnish Air Force

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Interesantna knjiga.
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Što je ispod krila ? Kontejner za izviđanje ? Rezervoar od MiG-15 ?

Pozdrav Kolege


kolega babcia f-13 ne moze da nosi rezervoare pod krilima. mislim moze da ih zakaci na bombo-nosace ali ne moze da spaja u gorivnu instalaciju. no ovo ste znali vec

Imam odgovor od finske Foruma
Napisao Gospodin koji u 1967 je bio mehaničar oružja .
Ovo je zapaljiva bomba iz stakloplastike.Provedena bili su vrlo pozitivni probni.
Citat:The underwing pod is a test bomb. It contains waste oil and it was made of glas fiber! I was on place and saw when they put the detonator in place before flight. I was on national service at Tikkakoski base spring 1967 as an aircraft ammunition and guns mechanic trainee and they made a similar flight there then.The plane throw the bomb to Niinisalo test area and they told that it detonated succesfully.

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Odlicno ,hvala kolega .

A sta Finci kazu u vezi sa nazivom F-12 ?

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Vijetnam poklanja Tajlandu jedan MiG-21,koji ide u muzej.




Citat:Vietnam People's Air Force (VPAF) prepares to deliver a MiG-21 interceptor to the Royal Thai Air Force (RTAF) as a symbol of good relations between the two countries . In the picture, Thailand officers are checking the aircraft with the staff of the VPAF at Da Nang Air Base .
Aircraft no. 5202 (red ) is in perfect condition, including all the weapons systems, engines and fuel tanks. The aircraft will be delivered with all the systems, except the 23mm cannon (which is being removed). The exterior and warnings in Vietnamese text remain as they were.
The MiG-21 is being dismantled, packed into containers in preparation for delivery to the RTAF. The delivery is scheduled to be in May this year. And will be reassembled by the Technical Department of the VPAF. The aircraft will be displayed at the Air Force Museum in Don Muang. This is the first aircraft from exchange program between ASEAN nations. In return, the RTAF will select a decommissioned aircraft which is also in perfect condition to send to Vietnam's military museum.

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Napisano: 28 Apr 2014 18:07

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Odlicno ,hvala kolega .

A sta Finci kazu u vezi sa nazivom F-12 ?
Ne odgovori
Oni pišu samo o MiG-21F-13, čak forum je MiG-21F-13 .
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Dopuna: 28 Apr 2014 18:29

Odgovori
Citat:Some sources claim it was an export designation for the Finnish MiG-21F-13. However, Jyrki Laukkanen's MiG-21 in Finnish Air Force states otherwise:
"Thou some western and even Finnish aviation sources identified them incorrectly as Dash 12 (which never existed), they were in fact Dash 13 referring to the K-13 missile system."


Ne bio ova verzija F-12. Da se zvalo na Zapadu. [I Rusi su se ponekad]

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babcia131 ::Било је око 40 варијанти Без Кинеза.
Da li su u ovih 40 ubrojane i razlike u podvarijantama po zavodima/fabrikama i pojedinim proizvodnim serijama ("blokovima" što bi rekli Ameri), ili bi sa tim podverzijama broj bio još veći?

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Мислим да би онда списак верзија био још већи.

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Kratak opis verzije i oznaka MiG-21;
http://dfiles.eu/files/2gtfja5hm

Nadalje odgovor iz Finske [ 21F-13 21F-12 ]

Citat:I think Jerzy really has got a point when asking about MiG-21F-12. According to the very detailled history of the Kubinka special regiment (234 Guards IAP), which generally was the first Soviet AF regiment to receive new equipment, and also repeatedly made friendship visits abroad and reciprocially hosted foreign visits (the first visitors being Finland, France and Sweden).

Thus the well-known Russian aviation historian Sergei Isayev writes in his history of 234 GIAP "Stranitsy istorii pilotazhnogo polka 1950-1992" (Pages from the history of the aerobatic regiment), Moscow 2013 (567 pages with hundreds of illustrations) that an EXPORT version of MiG-21F-13 was delivered to Finland in 1962, and that the designation of this export version was MiG-21F-12!
I have discussed this with Jyrki Laukkanen (and with several other Finnish MiG-veterans as well) who all point out that all documentation and handbooks of the Finnish MiGs mention ONLY MiG-21 F-13. However, after reading Isayev´s book I get the impression that some (avionic and/or weapon control?) equipment was stripped from the F-13 fighters before delivery to Finland, and that this "stripped down" export version got the (temporary and/or "unofficial"?) designation F-12.

It could further well be that the "degradation" of the export version was kept secret (or at least not "advertised"), why F-13 handbooks were delivered with the fighters.

Jerzy, to sum up, it would be interesting to know why you did put this question? Have you got reason to suspect that Finland did NOT get the original F-13?

Rusi tvrde da je posebna izvozna verzija 21F-12