Raketna krstarica klase Kirov

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Salamander Books - Modern Naval Combat (1986)

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Napisano: 11 Avg 2011 9:53

ljubasav ::Salamander Books - Modern Naval Combat (1986)


ovo je stvarno vredno paznje ,svaka cast za ovo ! zanimljivo je da su te `86 pisali da im nije bas jasno za onu izrazenu izbocinu sa obe strane i celom duzinom trupa u smislu sta bi to moglo da bude ,hehe tajanstvene Ruje

Dopuna: 11 Avg 2011 10:18

posto sam isprva zaboravio da malo prokomentarisem u vezi ove skice a i kolega ljubasav je trazio malo veci pa ajd




ovde ima bas onako dosta netacnosti tipa recimo sistem S-300F` Kashtan` ili slicno broj clanova posade 1200-1600 sto je bas ono preterano ali dobro ,medjutim pominje se nekakav incident ( kao nuklearni verovatno u vezi sa reaktorom/ima) 1990 godine ,sta se ustvari desilo tada ? jel ima neko mozda info o tome ?

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Nahimov, Lazarev i Usakov odlaze na sredjivanje

Produzenje resursa do 2030-2040. Nahimov se radi trenutno i bice gotov do 2015, sad, da l' moze to i brze

Citat:The ships' armament will get a major boost, with installation of advanced multi-module missile systems capable of firing a wide range of missiles and torpedoes, including P-800 Yakhont (SS-N-26) anti-ship cruise missiles.

The ships will also receive advanced air defense missile systems based on the land-based S-400 Triumf, and new point-defense systems.

Each cruiser will have a total missile carrying capacity of 300 missiles, making the ships among the best armed in the world.

After the refit, the Kirov class cruisers will most likely be deployed with Russia's Northern and Pacific fleets as part of large task forces set up to carry out a variety of combat missions - from "hunting" the adversary's aircraft carriers and submarines to massive land assaults.

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20110921/167012600.html

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TOP GUN ::Nahimov, Lazarev i Usakov odlaze na sredjivanje

Produzenje resursa do 2030-2040. Nahimov se radi trenutno i bice gotov do 2015, sad, da l' moze to i brze

Citat:The ships' armament will get a major boost, with installation of advanced multi-module missile systems capable of firing a wide range of missiles and torpedoes, including P-800 Yakhont (SS-N-26) anti-ship cruise missiles.

The ships will also receive advanced air defense missile systems based on the land-based S-400 Triumf, and new point-defense systems.

Each cruiser will have a total missile carrying capacity of 300 missiles, making the ships among the best armed in the world.

After the refit, the Kirov class cruisers will most likely be deployed with Russia's Northern and Pacific fleets as part of large task forces set up to carry out a variety of combat missions - from "hunting" the adversary's aircraft carriers and submarines to massive land assaults.

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20110921/167012600.html

e za ovu novost imas gajbu i idemo svi sa ove teme na rostilj !

Each cruiser will have a total missile carrying capacity of 300 missiles, making the ships among the best armed in the world.

wooow e ovo je vec nesto !

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TOP GUN ::Nahimov, Lazarev i Usakov odlaze na sredjivanje

Produzenje resursa do 2030-2040. Nahimov se radi trenutno i bice gotov do 2015, sad, da l' moze to i brze

Citat:The ships' armament will get a major boost, with installation of advanced multi-module missile systems capable of firing a wide range of missiles and torpedoes, including P-800 Yakhont (SS-N-26) anti-ship cruise missiles.

The ships will also receive advanced air defense missile systems based on the land-based S-400 Triumf, and new point-defense systems.

Each cruiser will have a total missile carrying capacity of 300 missiles, making the ships among the best armed in the world.

After the refit, the Kirov class cruisers will most likely be deployed with Russia's Northern and Pacific fleets as part of large task forces set up to carry out a variety of combat missions - from "hunting" the adversary's aircraft carriers and submarines to massive land assaults.

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20110921/167012600.html

Па нек им је са срећом повратак у службу и да дуго крстаре морима и океанима. Е сад фале по још 3 носача авиона па да ови имају и ког да чувају.

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Nekoliko je već puta najavljena modernizacija, ali nikako da počne... Teško i traljavo ide sve vezano za mornaricu.

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^I to stoji... Al' nadajmo se...
Bio sam ubedjen da je zamena (pre)velikih Granita neophodna, ali posle podataka i analiza koje je izneo kolega vrabac na temi Kako potopiti... Stekao sam utisak da je taj sistem ipak najmocniji protiv-brodski kompleks na svetu, i da i pored njegovog pozamasnog staza, Yakhont mu nije adekvatna zamena, ni izbliza. Mozda je bolja neka duboka modernizacija pomenutog, plus mozda i dodatak "malog" Club-a ili Yakhont-a.
Ali ipak sam ja laik...

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Napisano: 22 Sep 2011 11:22

Polemarchoi ::Nekoliko je već puta najavljena modernizacija, ali nikako da počne... Teško i traljavo ide sve vezano za mornaricu.

to stoji drugar ,no ne treba zaboraviti cinjenicu da je poslednjih 10-tak i vise godina prioritet u opremanju novim sredstvima NVO imala prvo` Raketna vojska strateske namene` ( RVSN) pa onda sistemi PVO i naravno jedinice VVS ,VMS je bio i izgleda ostao u zapecku tih prioriteta tako da ova vest mada nije ipak nova raduje koliko toliko

Dopuna: 22 Sep 2011 12:10

Oscar ::^I to stoji... Al' nadajmo se...
Bio sam ubedjen da je zamena (pre)velikih Granita neophodna, ali posle podataka i analiza koje je izneo kolega vrabac na temi Kako potopiti... Stekao sam utisak da je taj sistem ipak najmocniji protiv-brodski kompleks na svetu, i da i pored njegovog pozamasnog staza, Yakhont mu nije adekvatna zamena, ni izbliza. Mozda je bolja neka duboka modernizacija pomenutog, plus mozda i dodatak "malog" Club-a ili Yakhont-a.
Ali ipak sam ja laik...

pa Granit jeste mocan sto se ubojnosti tice medjutim neznam kako bi prosao u nekom eventualnom sukobljavanju na moru( naravno ne daj Boze ) zbog svoje balisticke putanje kretanja ,moguce da bi se on lako otkrivao i presretao sa ovim raketama novije generacije ( SM-3 , Aster i drugi ) ,nove rakete poput Kluba i ostalih su opet steltnije i manevribilnije ali nedostaje im ubojna moc Granita ,hm, upitno zaista ,recimo ne bi bilo lose u sklopu modernizacije Orlana ugraditi krstarece rakete kao sto su SS-N-21 koje se inace koriste samo sa napadnih nukl. podmornica a te rakete imaju i strategijsku namenu ( sa nukl. BG) i domet od cak 3.000 km nesto poput raketa TLAM-N na US krstaricama

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Ne mora da znači. Podaci vezani za Klub i Oniks daju se na osnovu izvoznih verzija. O ruskim verzijama se slabo šta zna, a nisu Rusi blesavi da ovoliku krstaricu opreme neadekvatnim oružjem. Ako ih uopšte i vrate u službu.

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Napisano: 22 Sep 2011 13:26

Aj kad ih vec pominjemo.... Evo odlican link za ruske protiv-brodske rakete

http://www.dtig.org/docs/Russian-Soviet%20Naval%20Missiles.pdf

Dopuna: 22 Sep 2011 13:30

O Granitovoj putanji
Citat:The missile has an onboard integrated electronic-countermeasures suit for avoiding enemy anti-missile attacks using a combination of maneuver and deception jamming. The computer could order the missile to one of various stored courses with multiple altitudes. At high altitude, the missile speed is Mach 2.5, while at low (sea-skimming) altitude, it is Mach 1.5. Vital parts of the missile are armored to increase penetration against fire from Phalanx-type close-in weapon systems and against fragments of
closely exploding air-defense missiles