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Tenk T-14 "Armata"

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Pretpostavljaju da može par očiju da zameni dobra optronika i dobar borbeni kompjutor sa podacima stanja na terenu. Veči deficit manje posade za tenk je u urbanim sredinama.


Pošto si bio tenkista, onda znaš koje sve aktivnosti obavlja posada jednog tenka. Neki poslovi su teški i za tročlanu posadu, a kamoli za dvočlanu.

Slažem se. Ali Armata treba biti neusporediva sa T-72 ili M-84. Dvojica nebi mogla ni granatama da nadopune T-72 ni mogla očistiti top, mada mogu da sudjeluju u tome dve ili tri posade zajedno. Kod Armate će verovatno dizalicom ubacivati kontejnere sa više granatama u spremište. Vozać će da bude neovisan imaće na MFD sve podatke koje treba za orientaciju na terenu (kartu + GPS poziciju), širok ugao vida će da mu obezbedi kamera kada će se voziti zatvorenim poklopcem itd. Da bi se mogao nišandija/komandir koncentrisati samo na borbu i izviđanje. Možda će imati dvočlana posada u Armati kasnije holografski (3D) prikaz podataka i terena ispred očiju pomoču specijalnih naočala ili neke vrste HMD, zvukovna uputstva o stanju na terenu, npr. koliko dubok i širok jarak se nalazi ispred tenka, duboka reka, vrsta terena, ugao uzbrdice i nizbrdice...?



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Citat:A.KURENNOY: Still, returning to the tanks - do "Armata" platform, which will be a lot of different weapons - how to move work? When the show?

V.HALITOV: the decision of the customer, we will comply with the requirements for the first time show "Almaty was" will be done on the Victory Day May 9, 2015. After that, I think we will demonstrate the customer already in combat use, specific material showing parts of the device arms exhibition in Nizhny Tagil in September 2015

A.NARYSHKIN: How many "Armada" now?

V.HALITOV: This is a complex machine, a kind of platform on which to create directly the tank creates a heavy infantry fighting vehicles and armored vehicle.

A.NARYSHKIN: Factory CEO said that "Almaty was" no analogues in Russia or abroad, that there is a fundamentally new?



V.HALITOV: That's true. We always, the Soviet Union, Russia, we were always ahead in terms of development it tanks. We have always offered not the usual technical solutions in the device machines. Suffice it to say, if you go through the chain - the best tank of the Great Patriotic War - T-34, it is generally a legend. The most massive tank in the world, which now operates in 57 countries - the T-72. Continuation - T-90, which is also now successfully in military-technical cooperation in many countries. And, of course, of course. "Armata" I hope this is a continuation of a decent chain of tank development.

"Armata" certainly absorbed all the best, all the technical backlog, which was created before it, has a very different, excellent layout different from the classic layout that now exists on the tanks, has an advanced gun, a more powerful engine.

A.NARYSHKIN: Computers sure?

V.HALITOV: Digital - it's a long time, we have already passed this stage, there are now more things advanced - in relation to the fire control system, other command handling.

A.NARYSHKIN: As fire control - what is it?

V.HALITOV: First, it is already automated many processes - for example, search, capture, tracking, destruction. It is now fighting for second, not just for the solution of the problem of fire damage, and the reduction of time. Because we who first saw the shot and hit, he also won the battle fleeting.

A.NARYSHKIN: Unmanned tanks will?

V.HALITOV: We are committed to this, too. There is a trend in the development of tank - this, of course, robotics tanks, including. But while it is difficult to solve the problem, because it is not so easy to create intelligence vision. Well, the machine came to an obstacle, it is necessary that the robot has chosen one of the ways to overcome the obstacles. Same defeat the purpose. This is a difficult task, which requires to decide a person decides it's fast enough.

A.NARYSHKIN: It is under discussion or already have projects, drawings?

V.HALITOV: Remote control we have used for a long time. If you noticed in the last year at the show in September, we showed how remote operator at a distance of 5 km run our special fire engine made ​​on the basis of T-80 tank units and units-T-72 tank. This special fire truck crew went completely off the machine and the operator to remotely control the machine. This is what we do specifically for fighting fires, such as explosions arsenals, bases, or other severe conditions where the car should work without people.

To date, what concerns the remote control, it is a well-developed theme, many of the technical issues have been resolved. The main thing - it is a reliable information transfer and control all of the controls on the machine itself. And so the operator sees through the camera is in front of the machine can be controlled, see panoramic already see what's happening around the car and run, giving signals to control the impact of this machine.

As for the direct replacement of fully human - probably, it's still the future. While we strive to reduce the crew.


Celi razgovor na http://www.echo.msk.ru/programs/arsenal/1354580-echo/


Jos jedan tekst o Armati govori o tome da ce kalibar ostati 125mm:

Citat:I. Korotchenkov: I can not ask about the fifth-generation tank "Armata". How are things going to work in this field?

O. BOCHKAREV: You mentioned only one kind of technique of ground troops - is the main battle tank. The last 4 years we performed a task that, in general, the change in the complex image of the armed land forces. You know that we are developing a new tank, new heavy infantry fighting vehicles, new light infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers new, new self-propelled artillery installation, new military and automotive equipment. All this equipment, in addition to what will be the main combat unit, it will be a universal platform to on common solutions we could set different complexes. For example, missile systems, control systems or communication systems, electronic warfare, etc. If you concentrate on your question on the "Armata", today we are in the schedule for this work. Under the "Armat" developed three types of machines. We will get a modern tank, where important issues are resolved protect the crew and his life. There are design solutions that allow a separate capsule to protect against injury and save lives of the crew. The second problem is solved - this is the correct location of ammunition. You've seen the terrible pictures of the two T-72 tanks, which just swept the asphalt. This is just the result of getting RPG ammunition. From iron nothing remains. You understand what happens to people. Therefore this vulnerability today's machines. Our engineers have found very interesting is the right design solution that allows us today to solve this problem. Plus new armor, new technical solutions to detect the enemy, new technical solutions associated with the possibility for large distances more accurately hit the enemy, driving performance cars. In general, this technique is new. May 9, 2015 at the Victory Parade in honor of the 70th anniversary, we expect that all this new technology will be held on Red Square. And our citizens as a whole will see a new face of Land Forces Armament. For us it is a very important date. For us this is a very important milestone. And today we are very tight, working hard to ensure that everyone in the complex could be solved.

I. Korotchenkov: What will be the caliber tank gun "Armata"?

O. BOCHKAREV: Caliber is the same as it used to - 125 mm. When we were deciding to build a new machine, it was very important to be able to use the old ammo. We have some stockpiled. Agree that hard if you're doing a new car, and then what to do with those products which are in stock today. Because ammunition - is a kind of accumulation, which is always there in the warehouses of the Ministry of Defence. Therefore, the caliber of 125 mm.

I. Korotchenkov: bronekapsuly really will ensure safety in many situations of real fights?

O. BOCHKAREV: Of course, we understand that you can hit the tank. Miracles do not happen. Certainly, the tank is also vulnerable to the battlefield, it can be hit and knock out. When we say that we have to create new conditions for the crew, we are not saying that it will be 100% protected. But the level of protection we have raised several orders of magnitude. And still this achievement. And it is very important to understand that we protect the crew from the secondary fragments. This is very important because as a rule not affected by the ammunition and secondary fragments, fragments of armor, which hit the soldier inside the crew compartment. So here there is a solution that allows us to guard against this case. It is clear that there will be a concussion, injury, but that's life personnel.

I. Korotchenkov: How habitability conditions in terms of ergonomics and comfort of the crew during the fighting?

O. BOCHKAREV: During the fighting, probably talking about the comfort of hard because the fight - it's something else. But overall habitability we become better places for the crew became more free space more. And the soldier is not so much trapped in the combat capsule. Very comfortable seating. Plus, they have to compensate certain dynamic effects on a fighter when a landmine. Therefore, in this respect, if we talk about comfort in this context, it is more comfortable habitability.

I. Korotchenkov: It is clear that not "Mercedes" luxury, but compared to the older models of equipment is a revolution. Information visualization will go through the display?

O. BOCHKAREV: Yes. Crew displayed a lot of different information. It can observe the battlefield and in the afternoon, night vision very seriously developed. Set corresponding to the radar system, which allows you to receive a lot of quality, important information. Round visibility technology, video cameras installed on all sides, which allow fast enough today to get information to be able to look around, take a decision on combat maneuver or the defeat of the enemy object.

I. Korotchenkov "Uralvagonzavod" meet the deadlines that are set aside?

O. BOCHKAREV: On behalf of Dmitry Rogozin now spend large range of activities. Today you came from a trip from Tula. We work with your colleagues on the PCU, conducted a major event in one of the elements, which is an important part for the "Armat", "Kurgan", "Boomerang". It is an autonomous combat module. And we see that there are ongoing issues, but they are working. Mood among developers, manufacturers, testers to meet these deadlines. Therefore, technology is already in the Ministry of Defence for official boxes go in January-February 2015.

I. Korotchenkov: That is, in the January-February already serial "Armat"?

O. BOCHKAREV: Serial "Armat" first tanks will be available in the Ministry of Defense, and they begin to prepare for these tanks until this very important external event - Victory Day in Red Square, the 70th anniversary of the great holiday. This technique will go on parade. Will be a great technical work, exploitation of technology, its driving performance, firings, precision characteristics, etc. We call this pre-production samples. You can call it a pilot batch. Like any new technology, it needs fine-tuning. President tasked by the number of 2020 has just painted. Somewhere around the middle of 2015 will be painted these tanks by year until 2025.

I. Korotchenkov: I remember in the article "Be strong" Putin said 2,200 will be procured for the armed forces.

O. BOCHKAREV: Absolutely. He talked about the number 2020. Today we will look at the planning horizon to 2025.

I. Korotchenkov: When will declassified appearance of the new tank? When we see him alive?

O. BOCHKAREV: May 9, 2015.


Ostatak teksta na http://rusnovosti.ru/programms/prog/299950/324721/


Onda jos dva teksta o novoj generaciji reaktivne zastite i celiku kojeg ce Armata koristiti:

http://vpk.name/news/113359_traktornyie_zavodyi_so.....hniki.html

i

http://vestnik-rm.ru/news-4-8773.htm



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Napisano: 18 Nov 2014 13:59

Армате стижу у јединице почетком 2015. године??
Видећемо их и на паради 9.маја ! Ziveli

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201411181344-5vvx.htm

Dopuna: 18 Nov 2014 20:39

Мало се и свађају, Уралвагонзавод каже да је цена армате 5 пута већа него цена Т-72Б

http://www.vz.ru/society/2014/11/18/715884.html

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Georgius ::Napisano: 18 Nov 2014 13:59

Армате стижу у јединице почетком 2015. године??


Onaj ko zna vise kaze nema sanse.

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bojank ::Georgius ::Napisano: 18 Nov 2014 13:59

Армате стижу у јединице почетком 2015. године??


Onaj ko zna vise kaze nema sanse.


Зато сам и ставио упитнике а то је само превод прве реченице у чланку. Вероватно у јединице стиже 3-5 комада на тестирање

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Ukoliko mogu da proizvedu dovoljan broj primeraka par meseci pre parade, koji bi se samo kotrljali po asfaltu, bez da zalazimo u to koliko bi bili borbeno osposobljeni, ja ne vidim u tome nikakv problem da se pojave upravo na sledećoj paradi. Oni sigurno ne bi završili u jedinicama, već možda u nekoj jedinici ili negde drugde gde bi doveli vojnike kako bi se obučili da upravljaju tenkom, te bi na taj način omogućili njegovo kotrljanje. A možda ga samo izlože negde ili stave na prikolicu. Samo nisam siguran da su Rusi fanovi takvog načina predstavljanja nove tehnike. Oni vole da šalju poruku moći (ovozemaljske sile), odnosno tehnika mora raditi svoj posao.

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Leonardo ::Ukoliko mogu da proizvedu dovoljan broj primeraka par meseci pre parade, koji bi se samo kotrljali po asfaltu, bez da zalazimo u to koliko bi bili borbeno osposobljeni, ja ne vidim u tome nikakv problem da se pojave upravo na sledećoj paradi. Oni sigurno ne bi završili u jedinicama, već možda u nekoj jedinici ili negde drugde gde bi doveli vojnike kako bi se obučili da upravljaju tenkom, te bi na taj način omogućili njegovo kotrljanje. A možda ga samo izlože negde ili stave na prikolicu. Samo nisam siguran da su Rusi fanovi takvog načina predstavljanja nove tehnike. Oni vole da šalju poruku moći (ovozemaljske sile), odnosno tehnika mora raditi svoj posao.
Armata ce biti prikazana 9 maja ,70 godina je od pobede to je jubilej i Armata ce se kotrljati uz T 34

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Georgius :: Мало се и свађају, Уралвагонзавод каже да је цена армате 5 пута већа него цена Т-72Б

http://www.vz.ru/society/2014/11/18/715884.html


Odlican tekst, nadam se da je sve istina sto pise.
Evo jos jednog u kome se kritikuje visoka cena Armate: http://itar-tass.com/ural-news/1580160

Pominju cenu od 400 miliona rubalja za 1 tenk, sto je trenutno oko 8 miliona EUR.
Ima tu i opravdanja - ugradnja radara za osmatranje 360 stepeni, novi sistem naoruzanja (top), nova zastita posade, potpuno novi motor...ali da je skupo - jeste.

Moje je misljenje da ce Rusi na kraju posegnuti za resenjem da kupe manji broj Armata, a da sve moguce pod-sisteme probaju da integrisu u T-90.

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