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Virtuelni dogfight

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Falcon Strike 2015 tajlandski JAS-39C protiv kineskih Su-27
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-The JAS-39 performance was at its worst inside the within visual range (WVR) envelope. Over a two-day period, PLAAF pilots shot down 25 Gripens at a loss of only one Su-27. The Su-27 has an advantage over the performance of the JAS-39 due to its more powerful Salyut AL-31F engines, and the Swedish aircraft was handicapped in that it was equipped with the older-generation AIM-9L Sidewinder instead of the current-generation Diehl IRIS-T missile.

-Once the exercise transitioned to beyond visual range (BVR) combat, the superiority of the JAS-39 became readily apparent. The Swedish aircraft shot down 41 Su-27s over a period of four days with a loss of only nine JAS-39s.

-The Su-27s flown by the PLAAF were operating with a modified version of the NIIP N001 radar that could fire the Vympel RVV-AE active-homing air-to-air missile (AAM). But its effective detection range was only 120km in comparison with the JAS-39’s Ericsson PS-05/A at 160km. The Gripen’s Raytheon AIM-120 AAM also outranged the RVV-AE at 80km versus only 50 km for the Russian missile.

-Li stated that the JAS-39C/D’s much smaller radar cross-section (RCS) at 1.5-2.0 m2 was a major factor, as the much larger Su-27 is easier to detect at 12 sq miles. The JAS-39 can also ripple-fire up to four AIM-120s simultaneously but the Su-27 can fire only one RVV-AE at a time.

-Gripen achieved 88 percent of its kills at 19 miles or greater, while the Su-27 had just 14 percent of its kills at this range. The RTAF also had 10 kills at a distance of more than 31 miles compared with zero long-distance kills by the Su-27.

In subsequent exercises the PLAAF fared better by sending the Chengdu J-10A - and then in 2019 the J-10C - in place of the Su-27. Li pointed out that the J-10C was more of a match for the JAS-39C/D in that “its active array radar significantly improves detection distance and multi-target attack capability, the DSI (divertless) air intake of the J-10C reduces the radar intercept area while the PL-15 missile increases the range, making it an over-the-horizon platform.”


https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/20.....rcise-rtaf



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Naravno da ti stari Su-27 i njegovi derivati, a koji su na teh. nivou iz '80 i '90 imaju ogroman deficit u odnosu na nove generacije lovaca.

Kina strogo kontrolise sve izjave...

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На вежби 2015. су учествовали кинески Су-27СК и УБК, дакле авиони са технологијом 70-тих и 80-тих година. И они сигурно немају РВВ-АЕ.

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Razmišljam o ovome već nekoliko godina i, suprotno običaju, samo bih predložio temu i pročitao tuđa mišljenja: poređenje našeg RV-a opremljenog "Orlom" i "Galebom" sa jedne strane, i našeg RV-a opremljenog "Jakom 130" sa druge.

Striktni scenario ne postoji, on može polaziti od akcenta na uloge predviđene za "Orla" i "Galeba", biti "igra aduta", presek postojećeg stanja ili poređenje perspektivnosti i realističnosti daljeg razvoja tipova, "what if" suprotstavljanje vazduhoplovstava gde su i "Orao" i "Jak" u naponu svoje snage... ili nečeg sasvim nevezanog, šta god ti palo na pamet.

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