Budući evropski lovac(FCAS)

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Kao i uvek Francuzi bi da budu glavni ili nece da se igraju...

Citat:Acceptance of Dassault lead role essential to FCAS survival says Trappier

However, he warns that challenges remain between the partners after the three governments agreed in December to proceed with the €3.2 billion ($3.4 billion) Phase 1B, which will see Dassault overseeing the development of a manned Next Generation Fighter (NGF) concept, along with Airbus Defence & Space, Indra of Spain and engine consortium EUMET, which comprises ITP Aero, MTU, and Safran.

“The question of who is in charge has been resolved, but the question of whether it will work is still not resolved,” he told FlightGlobal in an interview following Dassault’s annual results presentation on 9 March.

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Napisano: 24 Jul 2023 12:34

Paris Air Show: SCAF Snuffed Out?
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Citat:Any mention of SCAF in Dassault’s press conference?
If there was, it was so brief that Defence Analysis’s sharp-eared correspondent missed it – as did everyone else.
Na press konferenciji ni reći o zajedničkom projektu.
Ništa se ne dešava.
Citat:Without getting into a fight with any tar babies, observers in Berlin/Munich might like to note what are seen in France as egregious insults: decision to buy P-8 MPAs, decision not to continue work on Tiger attack helicopter, withdrawal from a battlefield engagement missile family in favour of local production of an Israeli missile, and looking as if the next generation MBT will be “Leopard 2A8/9”, entirely German-dominated, as opposed to a bilateral programme.
Nemci soliraju, P-8, nema daljneg razvoja Tigar helikoptera, novi nemački tenk....

Dopuna: 06 Sep 2023 17:25

Airbus and SCAF: The Signs Are There, and They're Not Rosy ...
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Citat:France’s Defence Minister, Sébastien Lecornu, has “boasted” about the fact that cooperation over Rafale operations and support between (at the very least) France, India, UAE, and Indonesia will likely end with cooperation over development of the F-5 standard, but even an F-6 standard for mid-late-2030s.
Francuski ministar odbrane o saradnji sa kupcima Rafala o zajednićkoj saradnji za verziju F-5 i F-6.

Citat:France’s DGA has started a programme – an active programme, not a “Blue Sky Thinking” one – about launching a range of disposable “loyal wingman” from transport aircraft (and eventually MPAs). Cooperation with Rafale is a main driver.
Francuzi počeli razvoj drona za saradnju sa avionom.
Citat:UCAVs/loyal wingmen in SCAF are the responsibility of Airbus Defence & Space.
Ovaj dron bi trebao da radi Airbus.

Kako izgleda o svega toga neće biti ništa.
U članku je i pomenuto uključenje Japana u Tempest program, tako da posla tamo nema za njih.

Dopuna: 30 Sep 2023 17:20

UK Tempest Flying Technology Demonstrator Program: Stealthy in Shape and Execution
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Citat:The Flying Technology Demonstrator (FTD) for Tempest – its relationship with the final result is the same as the Experimental Aircraft Programme’s relationship with the resulting Typhoon – is design fixed, parts are in production for it, and some have actually been delivered, and so are being “sub-assembled”.
Počeli su praviti prvi demonstrator.
Citat:There’s no question of, “we’re still looking at concepts”. No: the design has been frozen to the extent that the stealth engine intake ducts have been produced; the ejection tests were done using a fully representative cockpit/front section of the FTD aircraft, reinforcing the fact that the physical shape of the aircraft has been frozen as a design.
Dizajn aviona je time fixiran.

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nemci se premisljaju oko toga da napuste francuze i prikljuce se engleskom timu

Germany may abandon €100bn fighter jet project with France
Berlin could also lift veto on delivering Eurofighter Typhoons to Saudi Arabia as it considers deal with Britain
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^^Demanti
Citat:“Germany is sticking to the joint [FCAS] project with France and Spain,” said a German MoD spokesperson. “Media reports that Germany is pulling out are false."
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Dassault CEO strikes dark tone on Europe’s sixth-gen fighter progress
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Citat:While Dassault is the prime contractor, the French company weighs for only a third in decision making, with Airbus having two-thirds of the vote on behalf of Germany and Spain, Trappier said. That means the lead company on the NGF can’t divvy up the work as it sees fit, the CEO complained.

“We have to constantly accommodate, constantly negotiate. It’s what’s called permanent negotiation. I hope we will reach an agreement to move forward,” he said.
Stalne razprave koliko kome....Glavni je Dassault a nema većinu glasova..

France asks FCAS partners to ‘rethink’ work share on fighter project
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Citat:The French proposal comes amid reports that plane maker Dassault Aviation is seeking a greater share in some parts of the program. The company’s CEO Eric Trappier has said questions over governance within the project need to be sorted out before the fighter moves into phase 2, which includes building a fighter demonstrator.
Ništa novo, Francuzi traže veći deo kolača.

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Airbus DS CEO talks about leaving the SCAF project if its governance evolves in the direction of Dassault Aviation

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tekst je na francuskom, mozete koristiti prevodioc.



izgleda da je i problem, da francuzima treba avion koji ce da se koristi i sa nosaca, to im je vazno.
a nemci i spanci nemaju iskustva sa razvijanjem aviona koji moze biti koriscen sa nosaca niti im to treba.

posvadjali su se izgleda oko motora za avion. nemci nece da motor pravi safran, koji je itekako iskusan, neko hoce da to bude mtu. na kraju ce izgleda imati zajednicku firmu koja ce praviti motore.

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Naravno problemi...
Citat:Reuters reports that the French defence industry is blocking the progress of the FCAS (Future Combat Air System) project, demanding to be given sole leadership over the project.

French industry wants sole leadership in joint fighter jet - document
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Citat:France wants 80% work share while contributing 33% of the funding
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Nisu kompatibilni. I Nemci i Francuzi hoče da prave motor.

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Ah da, kao i u svakom programu do sada, Francuzi bi da budu glavni ili nece da se igraju i jos na kraju nekako ispadne da su oni zrtva... Cudo da su Jaguara uspeli napraviti zajedno.

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I njega jedva, nisu uradili mornaricku verziju jer Etendard bajo moj. Doduse uspeli su Alpha Jet.
I van vazduhoplovstva je takodje koma, moze ako se pravi raketa (HOT, Milan), ali cim je nesto krupno (tenk, BVP) bude potpuni raspad.