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Poslao: 16 Jul 2011 21:00
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Poslao: 16 Jul 2011 22:45
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ANTIBODY@ Pakistan is in the final stages of exercising an option to buy 18 more F-16 Block 52+ fighters
Since this agreement you can count that there will be no more reason for it but what are the major U.S. "betrayal" like purchase new aircraft type to another's (and Chinese) yard does not forgive. Under 2, apparent increasing reliance on China Pakistan as a guarantor of its interests when it comes to India (as with those in Pakistan in terms of confused emotions and interests (although you are a cultural and civilizational 100% times closer to India then china, and China you so "brotherly" support from a pure economic-strategic interest to destabilize India. , and 3 the reason is the increasing intolerance towards people of Pakistan and the arrogant hypocrisy of USA actions with one hand and the other on allegations by the USA on account of Pakistani security officials high (to cooperate with Al Qaeda)-Remember the case of Venezuela, which is the same one long been an ally of USA, so he bought a f-16.Now Chavez Letčiki drive the Sushke.
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Antibody please don't be angry or something like that, iI just expressed my opinion about someone, for me the main points of joining Pakistan and China and the separation of Pakistan and the USA
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Poslao: 17 Jul 2011 04:38
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two negotiation tracks are running at this time. the countries involved are US / Pak / Norway.
1- pak is interested in atleast 36 used norwegian F-16's which are 'excess' in norway.
2- pak is negotiating for atleast 18 new or EDA F-16s from the US.
its a slow process made even slower by the current state of relations between the two countries.
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reason [my speculation]
1] spare f16s will be quickly inducted as paf has 30 years experience with it
2] these f16s can be canablized for parts to keep exhisting f16s operational
3] china will not be 'angry' rather happy--- pakistani pilots fly or test fly western fighters which helps in laying down the minimum performance parameters for chinese and pak fighters
paf is flying harriers [uk], eurofighter [saudi arabia], f16 blk60 [uae] , su30mkk [china] , m2k [qatar/uae] , f16 blk52 [paf/tuaf]etc and the input is transferred to the design of jf17 and fc20
4] the specifications required by paf for the fc-20/j10b have gone up from being equal to f16 block60 to rafale eqiuvalent -- we might see modified frontal fuselage of fc20 , just like jft blk2
5] the initial order of 36 fc20 is now increased to 54
200 jft blk2,3 -- 100+f16s blk52 mlu -- 150 fc20
jft blk1 will go to storage or training foreign pilots
we are not destabilizing india -- rather the terrorists in swat are being armed by indian r.a.w agents
india has land disputes / wars with all its neibours
Dopuna: 17 Jul 2011 4:30
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-aviation/608.....pects.html [/quote]
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Poslao: 17 Jul 2011 13:52
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http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/07/14.....f_16_sales
Citat:There's very little chance the Obama administration would move forward with selling F-16s to Taiwan in the first place. The White House delayed the delivery of a $6.2 billion arms package to Taiwan that was left over from the Bush administration until after President Obama visited Beijing in November 2009. But when the delivery finally went through in January 2010, the Chinese went ballistic and cut off military-to-military relations with Washington.
Nikako da prođe ovaj prodaja aviona za Tajvan.
Političke posledice su jasne. Ako Ameri nemaju muda da prodaju oružje svom savezniku u Aziji, dali če se boriti za njega. Gates je rekao ove godine da če trebati svaki koji hoče da šalje američkog vojnika u Aziju da ide na pregled glave.
Citat:The advocates say that without new orders, the F-16 production line will close in October 2013, and new orders for parts will start to peter out as early as the end of this year. They point to a report produced by Lockheed Martin, which makes the F-16, showing a state-by-state breakdown of the thousands of jobs that would be lost if the jet fighter's production line is closed. To znači da ako nema novih naruđbi iz Pakistana za 2 godine je proizvodnja završena.
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Poslao: 17 Jul 2011 13:56
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Tajvan ide polako niz vodu. Vazniji su odnosi sa Kinom. Inace ne zavisi linija od Paksitana. UAE Block 60, Irak, jos neke zemlje, mozda neki tenderi u Evropi gde bi bili ponudjeni novi. Zatvarali su oni liniju 2008, pa 2010, pa 2012 
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Poslao: 17 Jul 2011 20:21
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Da, Irak je mislim samo odložio naruđbu, a Evropa. Nizozemska mi se čini da joj cena F-35 baš ne paše.
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