Školski avioni za 21. stoljeće

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Poljski tender
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The competitors are Alenia Aermacchi, offering the M-346 Master; BAE Systems with the Hawk AJT; Korea Aerospace Industries/Lockheed Martin offering their T-50P; Aero Vodochody with the L-159T1; and Finnish firm Patria, offering ex-Finnish air force Hawk Mk51/51As. The firms have until 29 July to submit final offers.

Deliveries will be made in two tranches. The first eight aircraft will be in a training configuration and will go to the Polish air force's 4th Training Wing by 30 November 2014. The second batch, with full training and combat capabilities, will arrive by late 2016. The first eight will then be upgraded to full combat status.

Warsaw is aiming to sign off on the deal by late 2011 or early 2012.

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Finci povukoše te Hawk-ove zbog zamora materijala koliko se sećam. Sad će Poljacima da budu dobri?!? Ko novi...

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Još imaju 20 godina resursa. Finski Hawkovi su bili nadgrađeni 2009.
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Napisano: 10 Jun 2011 18:29

Da, ali koliko se sećam ne celokupna flota... Već samo ono koje nameravaju da koriste, znači 30 od oko 65 koliko imaju. Ostali su samo stavljeni u magacin. A imaju po 30 godina svaki (kupljeni 1980).

Dopuna: 10 Jun 2011 18:33

RJ ::Finska je povukla 41 od 67 trejnera tipa Hawk iz flotne liste RV-a.
Razlog je što su većini vazduhoplova tog tipa istekli resursi kao i to da su avioni "istrošeni i izmoreni" dugotrajnom eksploatacijom.
Finsko RV zadržaće 26 Hawk-ova koje će opremiti novom digitalnom opremom. Ostatak vazduhoplova finska ima nameru da proda a prvi zainteresovani kupac za 16 aviona mogla bi biti poljska....




Citat:Finnish Air Force decommissioning 41 Hawk trainer jets
HELSINGIN SANOMAT
INTERNATIONAL EDITION - HOME
05:00 Helsinki time Saturday 6.11.2010



Most of Finland’s fleet of British-built Hawk trainer jets are to be decommissioned over the next four years. The Finnish Air Force is getting rid of 41 of the 67 two-seat Hawks in its arsenal.

Ten of the planes have already been grounded, due to metal fatigue in the bodies and wings of the aircraft.

“Worn out is worn out”, says Air Force Commander, Major General Jarmo Lindberg.

In 2001 the government’s report on security and defence policy stated that it is possible for the Defence Forces to give up the operative use of the Hawks.

More recently, the Hawks have been consigned purely to use as training planes, for which purpose a smaller fleet is feasible.

The Air Force will hold on to 26 of the aircraft, which are to have digital machinery and navigation systems installed.

Most of the Hawks that are to be kept were bought slightly used from Switzerland two years ago. The refurbished aircraft are expected to remain operational for at least 20 more years.

The Air Force is ready to sell the jets that it is decommissioning, but finding a buyer might not be easy. The defence contractor Patria has offered to fix 16 of the ageing planes for the Polish Air force. Poland is expected to make a decision on the matter at about the end of the year.

Let’s see if there is a possibility to make use of the equipment that is being phased out. If there is not, then there isn’t. We and the Air Force have a very pragmatic attitude about this”, says Jukka Holkeri, director of marketing at Patria.


Hawk trainer jets in storage. On the left are decommissioned planes whose wings have been removed. The red planes on the right are recent acquisitions from Switzerland, which are undergoing repairs.
Photo:REIJO HIETANEN

In the next 5-7 years the Air Force will also have to replace its fleet of Vinka propeller planes, which are the training aircraft it has used for beginning pilots.

The Air Force has outsourced the Vinka pilot training to Patria, which takes place at the Luonetjärvi base north of Jyväskylä.

The Air Force has discussed replacing the Vinka fleet, possibly in cooperation with the Swedish Air Force, whose jet trainer, the Saab 105, will become obsolete at about the same time as the Vinka.

However, training procedures of the Finnish and Swedish air forces differ considerably. In Finland, beginner pilots start out with propeller planes before moving on to jet trainers and fighters. Sweden uses jets at all stages.

The fleet of 50 Hawk trainers dates back to the late 1970s, and was a very controversial purchase at the time.

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Prema oznaki radi se baš o ovim nadgrađenim Hawkovima.

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Prodaju svoje modernizovane???
Da sačekamo pa ćemo videti...
Šta će onda njima ostati??

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Svedjani ce kupovati nove pa bi Finci sa njima. Bila opcija...

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vijetnam je prosle godine narucio dodatne kolicine rumunskih IAK-52, Yak-52 pravljen po licenci u Aerostaru.
evo jednog od njih...

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Eto, i to je školski avion za 21.vek.

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evo i "modernog" kokpita...

i kini je slican avion za pocetnu obuku, pa su resili da naprave novi avion CJ-7