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Poslao: 03 Feb 2022 22:11
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Skywhaler ::RF-81775... Izgleda da je to bio plavi 511...
 Citat:9th flying Su-57 prototype that was deployed to Khmeimim on 21.02.18.
It made its maiden flight on 6.08.17. T-50-11's bort no. "511 Blue" was removed from the fuselage & vertical stabilisers but RF-81775 reg. no. was added to the latter prior to the Syrian deployment. https://twitter.com/Russian_Defence/status/986995562187771904/photo/1
Ако се мало боље погледа, 52 црвени ипак није 511.
Прво шема фарбања није иста, величина фонта регистрације је такође различита.
И оно најбитније, 511 испод левог вертикалца има усисник другачијег облика.
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 05 Feb 2022 04:36
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Hello!
I haven't written anything for a long time, but finally there is a reason - new aircraft have been built and deliveries have started.
At least 5 aircraft were built in 2021: 52201 (already being built in late 2020), 52302, 52304, 52303 and 52405 - these are confirmed by photos from the KNAZ plant. I guess that four of them were completed for the Air Force in December 2021, as planned. When they were actually handed over is not known. Aircraft 52 blue appeared in reports from KNAZ in January 2022, and two more in February 2022 - red 02 (for GLIC) and red 52.
Nothing is known about the alleged fourth: presumably with the number 51 blue.
Please take a look at the website.
Greetings from Poland
Mariusz
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Poslao: 05 Feb 2022 09:19
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mariwoj63 ::Hello!
I haven't written anything for a long time, but finally there is a reason - new aircraft have been built and deliveries have started.
At least 5 aircraft were built in 2021: 52201 (already being built in late 2020), 52302, 52304, 52303 and 52405 - these are confirmed by photos from the KNAZ plant. I guess that four of them were completed for the Air Force in December 2021, as planned. When they were actually handed over is not known. Aircraft 52 blue appeared in reports from KNAZ in January 2022, and two more in February 2022 - red 02 (for GLIC) and red 52.
Nothing is known about the alleged fourth: presumably with the number 51 blue.
Please take a look at the website.
Greetings from Poland
Mariusz
T-50S-1 51001 Nº01 lost in accident december 2019 before tranfer to VKS
T-50S-2 51002 Nº01 GLITs-Zhukovsky
T-50S-3 52201 Nº02 GLITs-Akhtubinsk (probably Nº52)
T-50S-4 52202 Nº52 4ºTsBP Lipetsk
Big-eyed observers testify that apparently, the new Su-57s with tail numbers "02 red" and "52 red", filmed in Novosibirsk, and the plane "52 blue" from the recent KnAAZ video are three different sides. According to one of the assumptions, tail number "52 blue" could have been received for transfer to the Russian Aerospace Forces by the already mentioned former last prototype of the PAK FA - the T-50-11 aircraft, which previously flew with tail number "511"
bmpd.livejournal.com/4479696.html
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Poslao: 05 Feb 2022 12:58
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AMCXXL ::
T-50S-1 51001 Nº01 lost in accident december 2019 before tranfer to VKS
T-50S-2 51002 Nº01 GLITs-Zhukovsky
T-50S-3 52201 Nº02 GLITs-Akhtubinsk (probably Nº52)
T-50S-4 52202 Nº52 4ºTsBP Lipetsk
Big-eyed observers testify that apparently, the new Su-57s with tail numbers "02 red" and "52 red", filmed in Novosibirsk, and the plane "52 blue" from the recent KnAAZ video are three different sides. According to one of the assumptions, tail number "52 blue" could have been received for transfer to the Russian Aerospace Forces by the already mentioned former last prototype of the PAK FA - the T-50-11 aircraft, which previously flew with tail number "511"
bmpd.livejournal.com/4479696.html
As I said earlier, there is no photographic evidence for any such supposition that the 511 became one of the new aircraft - it is improbable and unheard of for me, as I know Russian ways of realising state гособоронзаказ. So far, we know what I've mentioned: five planes were built with the numbers 52201, 52302, 52303, 52304 and 52405. These are probably planes from the 52 series, but three "sub-series" 2, 3 and 4, numbered successively from 01 to 05:
52-2-01
52-3-02
52-3-03
52-3-04
52-4-05
If you look closely at the pictures of the new 52 blue, 02 red and 52 red, there are minor differences between them, such as the absence of some flight control system air-probes, as if they came from different supposed sub-series.
Despite of what is said at bmpd, we still don't have proof of the existence of 51 blue or that 52201 and 52202 were even built (or maybe I've missing some photos?).
Mariusz
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Poslao: 05 Feb 2022 16:28
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mariwoj63 ::AMCXXL ::
T-50S-1 51001 Nº01 lost in accident december 2019 before tranfer to VKS
T-50S-2 51002 Nº01 GLITs-Zhukovsky
T-50S-3 52201 Nº02 GLITs-Akhtubinsk (probably Nº52)
T-50S-4 52202 Nº52 4ºTsBP Lipetsk
Big-eyed observers testify that apparently, the new Su-57s with tail numbers "02 red" and "52 red", filmed in Novosibirsk, and the plane "52 blue" from the recent KnAAZ video are three different sides. According to one of the assumptions, tail number "52 blue" could have been received for transfer to the Russian Aerospace Forces by the already mentioned former last prototype of the PAK FA - the T-50-11 aircraft, which previously flew with tail number "511"
bmpd.livejournal.com/4479696.html
As I said earlier, there is no photographic evidence for any such supposition that the 511 became one of the new aircraft - it is improbable and unheard of for me, as I know Russian ways of realising state гособоронзаказ. So far, we know what I've mentioned: five planes were built with the numbers 52201, 52302, 52303, 52304 and 52405. These are probably planes from the 52 series, but three "sub-series" 2, 3 and 4, numbered successively from 01 to 05:
52-2-01
52-3-02
52-3-03
52-3-04
52-4-05
If you look closely at the pictures of the new 52 blue, 02 red and 52 red, there are minor differences between them, such as the absence of some flight control system air-probes, as if they came from different supposed sub-series.
Despite of what is said at bmpd, we still don't have proof of the existence of 51 blue or that 52201 and 52202 were even built (or maybe I've missing some photos?).
Mariusz
Only two Su-57s were transferred to the Russian Ministry of Defense at the end of December 2021, and only two Su-57s have flown to the West as of early 2022, so they will be 52201 and 52302 if the middle number is correct.
If there are more planes ready for transfer to the MoD it will be done in the next quarter at the earliest.
The planes with a blue tail numbers do not match the units that should receive them, so it is logical that they have been changed to red numbers
Akhtubisnk uses red numbers and Lipetsk the same.
The red number 02 is correlative to the blue number 01 RF-81774 which also works for the GLITs, but in Zhukovsky, that's why the blue tail number and not red
As for the red No. 52 is for Lipetsk, which also uses red tail numbers, there is a vacancy since Lipetsk's previous red No. 52 was a Su-24MR that hasn't been seen in flight for the last 5 or 6 years.
It seems to me that the red Nº02 is the previous blue Nº52, it seems that in the image of the blue Nº52 some closing piece is missing, but the marks on the fuselage and the paint are the same
As for the possibility of a prototype being transferred to the Air Force, it is not ruled out. The 8th prototype of the Su-34, with No. 49, was transferred in 2006 to Liteptsk with No. 01.
One of the T-50 prototypes was in Syria with the registration number RF-81775 (presumably number 511), and the number 52 bears the same number RF.
Given that the first production aircraft was lost in December 2019 before transfer to the MoD and a contract to deliver two aircraft prior to the 76 contract must be fulfilled, it would not be surprising if one of the most modern prototypes were transferred to replace the lost plane.
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Poslao: 05 Feb 2022 19:46
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Citat: Akhtubisnk uses red numbers and Lipetsk the same.
AMCXXL
Зар није Т-50С-2 (01 плави) у Ахтубинску?
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Poslao: 06 Feb 2022 22:16
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Има ли нових слика прототипа са бројем 52 који служио за испитивање новог мотора ? Шта је са рим авионом ?
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