Suhoj Su-35 "poslednji Flanker"

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Sergej Bogdan o svom nastupu na LB 2013g :

Citat:Please, tell us about the distinctive features of Su-35S in the area of maneuverability as compared to the currently operated Russian fighters?

Most of the aerobatic maneuvers shown at Paris Air Show have been demonstrated before by Sukhoi jets with a thrust vector control. However, thanks to the tailored control system and high-thrust engines (product 117S) there are some new aspects related to performing specific aerobatic maneuvers. For instance, the pilot is able to perform a “practical” maneuver – stall turn (or Hammerhead turn). It is performed when the pilot of Su-35S attacks an air target, then performs the stall turn and attacks it again. The second example demonstrates the jet’s high thrust/weight ratio. In particular, it may be demonstrated by performing the tailslide. However, earlier the jet stopped and “started falling down” tail foremost. Su-35S has higher thrust, thus the jet stops and then starts moving forward at low speed instead of falling down. Moreover, it is able to perform an aggressive turn at low speed. These are two examples of how the maneuverability of Su-35S changes the traditional aerobatics maneuvers performed by the other Sukhoi fighters with a thrust vector control. This is the “zest” of demonstration flights performed at Paris Air Show.

What can you tell us about the parameters reached during the demonstration flights?

The angles of attack reach 90 degrees in some flight modes. Moreover, in one mode the angle of attack reaches 100 degrees. As for the speeds: when the jet performs horizontal flight the speed may drop to 70 km/h. At the same time, due to high thrust/weight ratio it is able to accelerate quickly. Le Bourget airfield has a rather limited maneuvering area; however, I have enough time to gain the speed of 800 km/h. The maximum altitude today is 1400 meters; maximum overload - 9. For example, the overload of 8,7 was reached during the horizontal sharp turn at high speed.

https://www.ruaviation.com/docs/7/2013/7/2/70/

Citat:Did you manage to fully demonstrate the fighter's potential at Le Bourget?

The Su-35's primary characteristics are impossible to demonstrate at an air show for obvious reasons. A fighter's primary advantage lies in its combat performance. Here are some figures for you: the Su-35 exceeds any other fourth-generation fighter in operational effectiveness by 40 percent. For a number of parameters it is 10 percent better than the [existing] fifth-generation fighters.

https://www.rbth.com/economics/2013/07/04/su-35_ca.....lot__26745

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvErWAf01Zg

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Napisano: 27 Jul 2018 15:17

Kod Harijera imate VIFFing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UE9i82Kc_Y

Stim sto je to dosta lakse za izvesti sa americkim Harijerima (zbog kompijutera):







Sto se tice Maldiva/Foklanda imate na netu kako su se te borbe odvijale, Mirazi su imali smesno goriva da se uopste upustaju u nekakav ozbiljni dogfight plus nisu imali pojma da su Harijeri u blizini jer nisu imali podrsku radara.

Dopuna: 27 Jul 2018 16:08

Sto se tice radara i lebdecih ili spornih objekata, stari radari jesu imali taj problem ali i kod njih je moguce da se prate takvi ciljevi, a kod novih to ne bi trebalo biti problem, ono gde bi problem mogao nastati su radari u samim raketama ako nisu aesa ali sto rece Rej tajming je tu gadan i sitna greska moze mnogo da kosta a zasto bi se Su-35 tome uopste izlagao? Ima elektronski radar sa najvecom zonom skeniranja od svih operativnih, ima nove MAWS senzore ima i onaj L-afar i najbolju kombinaciju raketa za borbu sa distance, plus je do sad pokazao da je najagilniji dakle cemu borba nozevima kad moze da bude nindza snajper

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Hvala ,tako je, taj `VIFFing` ,na to sam mislio .Komentari mislim dosadasnji se odnose na rezime BVB ,tj predpostavka da dodje do gubitka brzine i visine tokom vodjenja iste .E sad sta se recimo navodi za radare konkretno :

Citat:
Even military radars have a limit of the lowest altitude at which they can track aircraft. This is because the radar signal will also reflect off of the ground and objects on the ground, causing interference. This is called clutter and can be avoided by Doppler radars that detect velocity.Doppler radars were actually originally built to overcome ground clutter. The velocity information provided by the doppler portion of the radar is used to discriminate between moving targets (aircraft) and the ground.

Doppler Effect
“The Doppler effect is observed whenever the source of waves is moving with respect to an observer.”

Pulse-Doppler Radar.
A pulse-Doppler radar is a radar system that determines the range to a target using pulse-timing techniques and uses the Doppler effect of the returned signal to determine the target object’s velocity.


Dakle pominje se `Doplerov efekat` i detekcija tj pracenje ciljeva u odnosu na njihovu brzinu ali ovde brzine prakticno i nema ??? Zato sam pomislio da to moze biti problem ne samo kod nisanskog rezima ( predhodno stabilno pracenje ) , nego i kod radara u RGS raketa V-V .Manevar se sigurno nece upotrebiti tokom vodjenja DVB ali ovakve stvari mogu itekako biti korisne u BVB.Jos sto rece Bogdan to sto se vidi na javnim nastupima nije sve od `repertoara` a kojeg ima Su-35S.

Koliko je Su-35S napredovao u odnosu na bazicnu platformu Su-27S ,ne pokazuje to samo radar ( N035 sa 5kW -atim predajnikom spram N001 sa 1kW -atnim ) vec i to da ima dosta veci visak potiska-energije u letu .Vise goriva a pri tom pogonska grupa trosi manje kerozina u svim radnim rezimama ,rezultat su one `velike modernizacije`.

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Indonezija bi prvi u oktobru
Индонезия ожидает поставку первого из 11 самолетов Су-35 к октябрю
Citat:Индонезия ожидает поставку первого из 11 российских самолетов Су-35 к октябрю, заявил журналистам чрезвычайный и полномочный посол Республики Индонезия в РФ Мохамед Вахид Суприяди.
https://www.aex.ru/news/2018/8/1/186821/

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Citat: Koliko je Su-35S napredovao u odnosu na bazicnu platformu Su-27S ,ne pokazuje to samo radar ( N035 sa 5kW -atim predajnikom spram N001 sa 1kW -atnim ) vec i to da ima dosta veci visak potiska-energije u letu .Vise goriva a pri tom pogonska grupa trosi manje kerozina u svim radnim rezimama ,rezultat su one `velike modernizacije`.

Мислим да се овде не ради о ''великој модернизацији'' већ о сасвим новом авиону. Као када би поредили МиГ-35С и 9.12.

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Moze i tako da se formulise ,dakle pored termina `velike ( duboke ) modernizacije`, da je Su-35S zapravo ili gotovo pa novi lovac razvijen na bazi Su-27S.

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На бази да али само личи на њега...

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Tako je ,zapravo sve je tu novo, od strukture planera sa sasvim novim konstruktivnim materijalima gde imamo mnogo KM-a kojih skoro pa uopste i nije bilo kod 27ce,zatim novi avionski sistemi i podsistemi,nova pogonska grupa sa agregatima,turbo-starterima , da ne govorimo o avionici ,koja je posve nova itd itd .

Samo dakle da vidimo sta ce uskoro uraditi sa njim ,da li ce stati na ovom broju od skoro 100kom ili ce nastaviti da ga proizvode i nakon 2020te .

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Rej definitivno ne znam na kom jeziku da ti se kaže. Su-35 će se proizvoditi bar do 2030. godine, Su-30 bar do 2027. godine. Ne razumem šta je sporno i zašto se stalno vraćaš na tu temu.