COIN avioni za "paravojno ratovanje"

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COIN avioni za "paravojno ratovanje"

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  • zixo  Male
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Pretpostavljam da je prvi kupac Kolumbija. Ili neka druga juznoamericka drzava.



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Evo vise informacija, naoruzana verzija ne nosi hemikalije.

worldatwar.net/chandelle/v3/v3n3/articles/ayres.html

An added benefit to using crop dusters in COIN duties is its low political visibility. It is harder to for the propaganda arm of an insurgent group to demonize before the world press a low-tech modified crop duster than purpose-built military aircraft. The type is also simple enough and may be suited for local production, both for internal security and in the aircraft's primary configuration for agricultural spraying and aerial fire fighting.



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Ok i da ga kupi kolumbija. Pominjali ste da nema nikakav oklop? Mene zanima jel se isplati uopste kad moze da obori strela ili igla (zbog brzine i plafona leta). A ne sumnjam da narko karteli nemaju para za tako neki sistem GUZ - Glavom U Zid

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Strela i Igla mogu da obore naprimer Mirage-2000 kojeg smo mi zveknuli iznad Bosne smešak ...

Nema oklop ? Znaci da ipak nisi citao, jer da si citao sta je napisano video bi. Bar prethodnu stranu. Sporiji jeste ali opet brzi od helikoptera a napadi sa ovakvim avionima se rade nisko iz brisuceg leta tako da plafon i nije bitan. Adut mu je da je sigurno jeftiniji od svega sto se nudi a i ovo iznad sto je ConAir postavio. Za Tucano ce ti trebati sigurno 10+ miliona...
Nace oni neke kupce.

Ako je neko ozbiljnije vazduhoplovstvo u pitanju mozda je bolja solucija naprimer Tucano, pa da imaju i trenazer i COIN avion...

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ako se uzme 100 kom. kao sto amerika planira, cena bi bila jos i niza... a kad se na to doda i relativno jeftino odrzavanje i navodno 12000 sati u borbrnim uslovima pre otpisa, onda je EMB-314 isplativ.

za sukobe gde protivnik nema vazduhoplovstvo niti respektabilnu PVO isplativije je nego da se uzme, recimo L-159 ALCA ili neka druga verzija naprednog trenazera pretvorenog u laki jurisnik.

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Smeta me slab pregled iz kokpita kod Airtraktora, pa i brzina mu nije vrlina samo 370 km/h. Mnogo više mi se sviđaju AT-6, Super Tucano, Pilatus PC-21... Ali je dobar za gašenje i zaprašivanje polja. Istina i cena mu je jako povoljna.

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a da se neko seti i opremi tucano/super tucano ili pc9/21 uredjajima za zaprasivanje ili gasenje pozara? takav "kit" bi se sigurno mogao postaviti spolja, dok bi avion jos uvek bio sposoban da nosi i naoruzanje i obavlja obavlja obuku...

ne verujem da je cas leta nesto mnogo razlicit kod airtractora i ovih skolsko-coin aviona, jer u sustini koriste iste motore.

samo ostaje prednost u nosivosti air tractora, sto i nije mala stvar kada je u pitanju gasenje pozara, kao i prednost u autonomiji, sto opet nije zanemarivo u slucaju coin borbe i dezurstva u vazduhu...

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Da, i onda dobijete visenamenski avion. Smile

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Malo podrobnije sta ce sve jos biti nabaceno na AT 6B kako bi bio jos konkurentniji za LAAR:
Hawker Beechcraft Corp. (HBC) is morphing its T-6B Texan II military training aircraft into the AT-6B, a welterweight contender in the U.S. Air Force’s upcoming Light Attack and Armed Reconnaissance (LAAR) competition. The attack variant utilizes a beefed-up T-6 airframe, capable of carrying 3,350 lb of external stores on six wing hard points. To help offset the combat version’s additional weight and drag, Pratt & Whitney Canada is developing a 1,600 shp version of the PT6A-68 turboprop engine for the AT-6, similar to the 1,600 shp -68 engines that power Pilatus PC-21 and EMB-314 Super Tucano.

For the aircraft’s role as a weapons delivery platform, the AT-6 is being fitted with the A-10C Thunderbolt II’s Central Interface Control Unit (CICU) mission computer that will tie the aircraft’s avionics suite into a net-centric combat environment and give it a MIL-STD-1760 “smart weapons” interface. The aircraft will feature a night vision-compatible cockpit, plus the HOTAS sensor and weapons controls carried over from the second-generation T-6B Texan II trainer. It also has an Enhanced Position Location Reporting System (EPLRS) and Situation Awareness Data Link (SADL). These functions integrate the aircraft into U.S. Department of Defense’s digital command and control battlefield network that links virtually all air and ground warfare assets.

The development roadmap for 2010 includes adding a helmet-mounted cueing system. An autopilot later will be added to reduce workload.

The U.S. Air Force has said that any LAAR candidate must have tandem seats with dual controls so that it can also function as an advanced trainer. The aircraft also must have zero / zero ejection seats. “Desired requirements” include a 30,000 ft service ceiling, implying that the aircraft should be pressurized, and the ability to cruise at 180 KTAS or faster at 10,000 ft. The AT-6B meets all those requirements.

Prototype versions of the aircraft also are being fitted with an L-3 Wescam MX-15Di electrical optical/infrared/laser designator system. Provisions to accommodate Raytheon’s Multi-Spectral Targeting System (MTS) also are being developed.

Self-protection features include addition of light armor to the crew and engine compartments, foam lining for the fuel cells to slow or seal leaks, along with AAR-47 IR missile detection and ALE-47 active counter-measures systems. More advanced electronic counter-measures may be offered in production aircraft, depending upon customer requirements.

The AT-6B will be able to operate autonomously from austere runways at forward operating bases. Line service personnel have demonstrated 11 minute turn-around times for the T-6 in the under-graduate pilot training environment. AT-6B should be capable of similar quick turns, except for loading or exchanging external stores.

The result is a Close Air Support (CAS) and Counter-Insurgency (COIN) aircraft that is priced under $10-million and that can be operated for less than $750 per hour, including engine reserves, HBC officials assert. The support burden is expected to be less than three maintenance staff hours per flight hour, particularly in light of fleet commonality with the more than 600 T-6 Texan II trainers in service around the world.

The airframe also has a basic 18,720-hour service life, assuming 4.5G to 5.5G limits are observed. After reaching the 18,720 hour benchmark, the aircraft is eligible for a service life extension program that potentially could double or triple its economic life.

Such cost considerations are critical to the U.S. military, which rapidly is wearing out its legacy combat aircraft, such as F-16, A-10 and F-15, in CAS and COIN operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. AT-6B, HBC officials claim, can perform many of the missions of legacy attack and fighter aircraft, thereby reducing wear on them. This will enable the service to extend the useful lives of its comparatively high-priced assets.

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zgembo ::Po meni, S Tucano je "izmisljen" za nase prostore...Vec sam bio postovao koliko je (po meni) isplatnije uzeti novog Tucana nego se bakcat sa S Galebom MD...a i lasta onda nema nekog velikog smisla...pa jos neki dil da se proba makar sastavljat u UTVI...I ja se probudih... Smile

mislim da bi to bilo tracenje dragocenog vremena i para... Nama trebaju bezpilotne letelice,sa malim IC odrazom,po mogucstvu stelt,sa malom mukom motora i preciznim mocnim oruzijem... Tako se dugorocno gledano dobije velika kolicina informacija iz video zapisa i fotografija koja bi takva letelica mogla da napravi... ali da ne tupim vise...
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Dopuna: 04 Avg 2010 0:40

zixo ::Da, i onda dobijete visenamenski avion. Smile

takav avon bi anm mozda bio od koristi nase nezaboravne 1998 - 1999 god...

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