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Poslao: 26 Feb 2010 12:16
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zapravo, super tucano je vec gotov. dok nafiluju texana svime i svacime, prodje voz... cini mi se da je super tucano potencijalno i jeftiniji, a recimo motor je gotovo isti, pa razlika i nije tolika.
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Poslao: 26 Feb 2010 12:25
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????
T-6 je derivat PC-9, kojeg naoružane verzije več postoje. Amerikanci mogu da naprave isto za tjedan dana, ako več nisu.
Tucano možda je jeftiniji, ali USAF i USN AIrforce imaju vise sto Texana. Treba samo borbeni upgrade.
Nabavka novog tipa aviona iste svrhe mi je manje logična nego modernizacija djela postoječe flote ili eventuelna nabavka neke brojke naoružanog Texana.
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Več postoji. I to sijajno naoružan
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Poslao: 26 Feb 2010 12:33
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nije iskljuceno da su super tucano uzeli zbog uvida gde je konkurencija i sta mogu sami da urade na texanu. pa sad da ga naprave za takokratko, nisam bas siguran, ima tu dosta petljanja. ameri po definiciji svoje skolske avione ne naoruzavaju verovatno zbog ustede.
sve u svemu, texan i tucano su vrlo slicni i mislim da ne bi velika razlika bila i da uzmu super tucano jer je off the shelf resenje. licno, uzeo bih tucana u startu, ali eto, ameri su hteli drugacije.
Dopuna: 26 Feb 2010 12:33
sta ti je ovo na gornjoj slici - jel to realnost ili fikcija? derivat pc9 nosi lgb? jel to operativno ili ne? zar slovenacke nisu "sredili" izraelci?
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Poslao: 26 Feb 2010 12:42
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Prema ovome linku neka bi bila realnost ili uskoro dostignuta realnost
[Link mogu videti samo ulogovani korisnici]
Ali da se preceziram: nije ovo koji je bolji avijon Tucano ili Texan, nego da mi ima vise smisla da Ameri uzmu T-6B Texan II ili kako če se več zvati, nego Tucana, jer prvi je vec duze vrjeme operativam u USAF i NAVY. Zato mi je bio onaj text sumljiv. Samo toliko
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Poslao: 27 Feb 2010 16:34
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Pored nabrojanih, i stari OV 10 Bronco jos se ne da, Boing razmatra da ponudi napredniju verziju za izvidzanje i podrsku.
Boeing considers restarting OV-10 production after 23-year hiatus
Boeing is considering the possibility of restarting production of the OV-10 Bronco turboprop, a Vietnam-era light attack and observation aircraft last produced in 1976.
The company confirms that the OV-10 could be offered as either a light attack or intra-theatre light cargo aircraft for the US Air Force. The international market is also driving interest in the slow-flying aircraft, which blends some of the observational capabilities of a helicopter with the range of a fixed-wing aircraft.
Boeing has cited recent USAF interest in acquiring a light attack aircraft as a possible reason to revive OV-10 production.
Although known for its surveillance prowess, the OV-10 remains in combat service in four countries: Colombia, Indonesia, the Philippines and Venezuela, with a weapons load at least equivalent to the Bell AH-1 Cobra attack helicopter. Some of those countries, and perhaps new customers, could seek remanufactured or new production OV-10s as their current fleets wear out.So far, the USAF has not decided whether to buy a light attack fleet, known as the OA-X. But the Air National Guard will experiment later this year with the Beechcraft AT-6 Texan II. The USAF is also buying dozens of AT-6s on behalf of the Iraqi air force. The Embraer EMB-314 Super Tucano and US Aircraft A-67 Dragon are also candidates for an OA-X order.
If the OA-X opportunity stalls, Boeing believes there could be interest in reviving the OV-10 as an intra-theatre transport for moving small groups of troops or medical services around the battlefield.
Boeing notes that the OV-10 revival idea is very preliminary. However, the company has created a marketing brochure, which has been circulated at defence industry events.
Unmanned air systems are being increasingly augmented by piloted aircraft for the persistent intelligence surveillance reconnaissance mission. The US Army and US Marine Corps have adapted the Shorts C-23B Sherpa with a wide-area surveillance sensor, and the USAF will deploy 37 MC-12W Project Liberty aircraft - modified Beechcraft King Air 350/350ERs, to augment unmanned operations.
The OV-10 has been considered for a similar role for several years. The Department of Defense contacted John Hodgson, president of the OV-10 Bronco Association, a few years ago to inquire about fleet availability.
Hodgson is not surprised by the rising interest in the observation platform. "It doesn't make any difference how good your UAV is," he says. "Nothing replaces a couple of eyeballs on a head that moves around."
Dopuna: 27 Feb 2010 16:33
I jos jedna...
Dopuna: 27 Feb 2010 16:34
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Poslao: 02 Mar 2010 10:41
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nemacki ov-10b(z) bronco je imao i turbomlazni motor j85 iznad trupa... nije lose - 3 motora pa ga sad ti obori... medjutim, za odrzavanje je nocna mora.
Dopuna: 02 Mar 2010 10:41
cak su ga ispitivali i na nosacima aviona.
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Poslao: 14 Apr 2010 11:29
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Au kako je nacickan antenama, pa ovo je cista ludost, izgleda kao karikatura Super Tucana (koji ni sam nije najcistijisto se toga tice, ali je makar u granicama normale). Znam ja da su u njega verovatno ugradili tuce raznoraznih sistema i da im antene trebaju, ali ovo je odvratno (aerodinamicki gledano), mogli su nesto elegantnije da smisle. Dobro, bar je tekst pojasnio zbog cega su odustali od naoruzanog Texana, koji bi im svakako bio povoljnije resenje (posebno logisticki gledano), nije im se cekalo godinu i po dana (da je u pitanju Lokidov avion rekli bi da ce ga uraditi za 3 meseca pa bi radili godinu i po, tom taktikom je i Hawker Beechcraft mogao da se posluzi, jeste prljavo ali skoro uvek upali).
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Poslao: 04 Jun 2010 14:22
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Ekvador bi trebao da uzme 18 Super Tucana. Prvo su planirali 24 ali zele da ustede deo para kako bi kupili i 12 polovnih Juzno Africkih Cheetah C.
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[Link mogu videti samo ulogovani korisnici]
