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Slavni MIG-15 "Fagot"

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Hvala, nekako mi je promaklo...



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fin ::..gledam ovu sliku gore - neverovatno kako su jednostavni ovi motori sa centrifugalnim kompresorom i ovim komorama (RR Nene itd.) Smile
Deluje kao nešto šta bi mogao da uradi ili popravi svaki majstor/automehaničar u svojoj radioni/garaži. Ako se mogu da prave i popravljaju odlivci blokova motora za stare aute golfove, zastave itd. - ovde ima samo jedan centrifugalni rotacioni elemenat kao kompresor, a ove komore okolo su samo stvar cevnih elemenata (jeste da bi trebalo tražiti lakše metale, ali temperatura nije tolika kao kod axialnih avio-motora). Najkomplikovaniji elemenat ovog motora jeste ustvari samo disk turbine sa lopaticama prema kom su usmerene ove cevne komore, a ostalo je veoma jednostavno (i lageri isto)



upravo ce ti turbina odseci glavu ukoliko se raspadne pod dejstvom centrifugalnih sila ako se prekorace obrataji cak i za deset procenata. ne treba zanemariti da je problem regulacije goriva pri pokretanju ili promeni rezima a da o pojavi pumpanja ne treba posebno ni govoriti - usavrsavan oko deset godina u tri velike zemlje. svaka anoomalija moze da izazove pozar narocito je blesavo da se isti dogodi u vazduhu. iako deluje jednostavno ipak motor sa centrifugalnim kompresorom nije jednostavan. od njega se odustalo samo zbog velikog precnika koji je potreban jacim motorima. tako nekako dodjosmo do toga da ipak automehanicari ne mogu popravljati vazduhoplovne motore ma kako im se cinilio. ko bi god sada pomislio drugacije neka u sledecem postu samo odgovori da li je turbomlazni avionski motor dvotaktni ili cetvorotaktni - pitanje je zaista ozbiljno.

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Skywhaler ::Da li postoji i da li je sačuvana bar neka fotografija tog MiG-15 koji je testiralo naše RV?

Postoji citav walkaround (nesto slicno onome sto ste vec imali priliku da vidite povodom naseg/rumunskog Jak-23) ali ajde ti sad to iskopaj iz drzavnih i privatnih arhiva Smile previse muke..zato je dosta i ta jedna iz kolekcije Milana Micevskog i druga Milorada Forkape

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Човек с краватом. Ладно. Very Happy

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OPERATION MOOLAH

THE PLOT TO STEAL A MIG-15

Citat:During the Vietnam War, many Americans were surprised to read of gold offered to North Vietnamese soldiers and Viet Cong Guerillas. This offer was an attempt to persuade the enemy to aid American pilots forced down over Communist held territory. For example, early in the war the enemy shot down Lieutenant George E. Flynn's A-1 Skyraider while flying somewhere over Dong Thai. U. S. Aircraft dropped leaflets offering $35,000 in Vietnamese currency for the safe return of the pilot. "$35,000 reward. The Department of the Air Force of the United States of America offers a reward of $35,000VN for the recovery of, or information leading to the recovery of Lt. George E. Flynn, who is a pilot of the U.S. Air Force. Lt. Flynn was flying in an A1E Skyraider, last seen Wednesday morning, 23 September 1964, flying over the Dong Thai outpost, Hieu Le District, Kien Giang Province...After giving the information and collecting the money, the bearer of this leaflet will be completely free to come and go as he pleases. Signed: Commander, U.S. 2nd Air Division."

There are virtually hundreds of cases where warring nations have made cash offers to the enemy. Sometimes the money is for defections or weapons. Other times it is for aid to friendly personnel or to purchase loyalty to a friendly government. We are going to discuss one of the most amazing of the reward campaigns, the attempt to steal a combat-ready Soviet MiG-15 Fighter for one hundred thousand dollars. This entire operation is a mystery. There is still a great deal of doubt about who first conceived the idea of stealing a Soviet Fighter plane. To make it even more interesting, there is some doubt as to whether anyone ever really expected to get an aircraft.

The previously classified report Guerrilla Operations 1952, published by the Headquarters, Guerrilla Division, Far East Command, Liaison Detachment, 8240th Army Unit, mentions the American desire for a MiG-15:

A complete MiG-15 is one of the highest priorities establish by the Air Force. The Air Force and Navy will offer support for any feasible project that will acquire a MiG-15. The MiG-15 technical orders are highly desirable. These are sometimes carried in the cockpit.


Arrow http://www.psywarrior.com/Moolah.html

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U vezi onog u Jugi ...

Citat: ...less than one week after the agreement was negotiated, Yugoslavia offered to the United States a Soviet MiG-15
fighter jet.
The Yugoslavs had told the Soviet Union that the MiG crashed in Yugoslav
territory and – refusing to allow Soviet intelligence inside its borders – that it was
damaged beyond salvageable condition. The MiG was subsequently offered to the
United States for inspection, on the condition that the CIA Station Chief facilitate the
transfer (as far as the Station Chief knew, the Yugoslavs were unaware of his CIA
connections; he was likely chosen due to his rapport with Yugoslav Ambassador Vlado
Popović). Five Air Force Colonels went into Yugoslavia and retrieved the plane, at
which point the Station Chief stepped out of the picture. Undoubtedly, this information
helped the American military establishment in the prosecution of the ongoing Korean
War.


iz dokumenta

Citat:"A Rat Hole to be Watched"? CIA Analyses of the Tito-Stalin Split, 1948-1950
Mehta, Coleman Armstrong
26-Jul-2006


Arrow http://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/ir/bitstream/1840.16/1006/1/etd.pdf

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15-ica u ulozi odledjivača pruga
http://theaviationist.com/2014/11/01/mig-15-deicing-railroads/

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Napisano: 17 Nov 2014 11:26

Skywhaler ::Da li postoji i da li je sačuvana bar neka fotografija tog MiG-15 koji je testiralo naše RV?

zixo ::Имаш на 5. страни ове теме.

Ima ali nema ovakvu Smile


Slika je nastala poslije povratka aviona u Mađarsku.Obratite pažnju na tragove starih oznaka mađarskog rv na vertikalcu i trupu ,preko kojih su postavljene nove,manjih dimenzija

Dopuna: 18 Nov 2014 22:02

Postoji i jedan detalj vezan za ovaj avion koji nisam uspio da razjasnim..Naime na fotografiji Milorada Forkape vidi se da je ispred bort broja 25 ucrtan jos jedan broj ,vrlo malih dimenzija, reklo bi se broj 8 .Nisam siguran sta ta cifra oznacava.Ako je i to dio bort broja zasto nije istih dimenzija kao ostali?

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Madjarski su imali trocifren Bort broj ..Mozda je taj bio 825 ?

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