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Kineski sporovi oko teritorijalnih voda

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Biće ovde gužve, da vidimo suške i f15 kako presreću jedni druge.

Korejska, japanska, kineska i tajvanska zona identifikacije.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/11/27/worl.....a&_r=0



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Japan, J. Koreja i Tajvan stalno preleću iznad Senkaku otoka, samo još fale Filipinci.
Otoci se nalaze cca 400 km vazdušne linije od Okinave i od najbliže obale Kine.



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Kina broji oko 150 suhoja u 27/30 verzijama. Sad,koliki broj toga se može dodjeliti obrani otoka vidjeti ćemo. Ako dođe do zračnih duela,sumnjam da će dati šansu J-10 i J-11 zrakoplovima domaće proizvodnje(zadnji je reverse inženjering nad Su-27 sa malo jačom elektronikom). Koja je najbliža zračna baza od tih otoka?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_People%27s_Li.....e_airbases

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Ekonomska povezanost je velika da bi se lako zaratilo. Maltretiranje nekog manjeg je moguće kao Kina Vijetnam npr. ali Kina Japan ili USA nešto mi baš ne izgleda verovatno. Čak i poneki incident će biti zataškan bez obzira na to ko učestvuje. Jedino što može napraviti problem i što mene plaši je da neka unutrašnja kriza u Kini izazove potrebu za okupljanjem nacije. Onda je sve moguće. Ne nuklearno jer dalje od takvih ostrvaca koja su i inače uglavnom pusta neće niko ići ali čak i to bi donelo puno problema ovako klimavim i šmrljavim državama i privredama kao naša.

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Chinese jets shadowed US and Japanese planes in new air defense zone

Published time: November 29, 2013 13:42

Chinese fighter jets were scrambled and followed US and Japanese planes that had entered the newly-proclaimed Chinese air defense zone in the disputed area of the East China Sea, Xinhua reports.

Two US surveillance aircraft and 10 Japanese F-15 jets were ‘tailed’ by Chinese pilots on Friday.

China ordered an urgent dispatch of its Su-30 and J-10 fighter jets to an area in the East China Sea after the foreign aircraft “invaded” the air defense zone, they said.

The reported intrusions came in defiance of the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ), established by Beijing last week.

China’s move has triggered outrage from several states in the region and critical rhetoric from the US, as the vast zone covers disputed areas, including the islets claimed by both China and Japan.

Earlier on Thursday, the Chinese Air Force conducted its first air patrol flights over the zone, as Japan and South Korea sent their own military aircraft into the zone's airspace in an act of defiance.

China has stressed its decision to enforce the airspace identification zone - which requires all aircraft flying over or near it to identify themselves - follows common international practices and “is a necessary measure in China’s exercise of self-defense rights.”

No international flights will be affected by the setup of the zone, Chinese Air Force spokesman, Shen Jinke, told Xinhua.

Japan and its US ally blasted the decision as “unacceptable” and rejected the “unilateral” declaration, saying it would create dangerous tension. However, Chinese officials gave a reminder that both countries have long had their own ADIZ, and that the Japanese never discussed theirs with their neighbor.

“If they want it revoked, then we would ask that Japan first revoke its own air defense identification zone and China will reconsider it after 44 years,” China’s Defense Ministry spokesman, Yang Yujun, said in a statement posted on the ministry’s website on Thursday.

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Napisano: 29 Nov 2013 17:34

Kako su Tajvanci već jednom slali brodove i se postavili uz Kinu, a na drugoj Japanci i Ameri mislim da će Kina da produži takvu politiku. Iskoristiti će priliku kada Tajvanci neće moći da se okrenu protiv njih, da ostali ispadnu budale.
Tako ja vidim sliku cone, koju je postavio djox.

Dopuna: 29 Nov 2013 17:53

China's ADIZ: Taiwan's Dilemma
Arrow http://thediplomat.com/2013/11/chinas-adiz-taiwans-dilemma/
Citat:Soon after Beijing announced the creation of the extended ADIZ, Chuck Hagel, the U.S. Secretary of Defense, countered by calling the move “a destabilizing attempt to alter the status quo in the region” and a “unilateral action [that] increases the risk of misunderstanding and miscalculations.” Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe also weighed in, referring to the move as a “dangerous act.” On November 26 Australia’s Department of Foreign Affairs summoned the Chinese ambassador to convey Canberra’s concerns. Germany said the move “raised the risk of an armed incident between China and Japan.”
Citat:But what can a country that doesn’t have diplomatic relations with China, let alone a representative office, do to express its discontent? Taipei cannot summon the Chinese ambassador, as there isn’t one. And furthermore, its policy is driven largely by the Ma administration’s efforts to improve relations with Beijing, a process that was initiated in 2008 and which has arguably yielded some positive results.

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Svako crta svoju granicu Wink

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Pomalo mi sve ovo smešno oko ovih ostrva , kao mala deca , neshvatam nikoga ozbiljno povodom ove situacije , samo mi nije jasno šta rade Američki avioni na toj granici , častim kada objave vest da je neki grigo poljubio patos , tj. bude oboren .
Za ostale ne častim .

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Pa ameri su tu bukvalno u samom epicentru dešavanja na Okinavi i nije čudo što se vrzmaju na tom području...

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Dragan Mačak Damljanović ::Pomalo mi sve ovo smešno oko ovih ostrva , kao mala deca , neshvatam nikoga ozbiljno povodom ove situacije , samo mi nije jasno šta rade Američki avioni na toj granici , častim kada objave vest da je neki grigo poljubio patos , tj. bude oboren .
Za ostale ne častim .


-па прво нису толко битна острва колко оно што је испод,а друго па имају своју стратешку тежину ипак су станица ка отвореном океану.
-С обзиром да је јапан амерички савезник/колонија/сателит зовите како год хоћете-тржиште/марионета/роб самим тим то и јесте америча граница реално-интересна сфера-''аутпост''. Wink

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