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Napisano: 14 Jan 2012 13:50

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Dopuna: 14 Jan 2012 14:03

tek sam sad primetio da je ovo strana 100 na temi Su-30..
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Alžirci su se jako zabrinuli kada su otkrili da u njihovim Su30 ima jako puno izraelske elektronike, za koju strahuju da bi u slučaju nekog neprijateljstva sa izraelom mogla biti hackovana i u tom slučaju beskorisna na njihovim avionima, od Rusa traže objašnjenje, a Rusi kažu da im ovi nisu postavljali nikakve konkretne zahteve , nego su tražili opremu na nivou MKM(malezijaca) tako da ako se ovaj problem nekako nereši, alžir će otkazati isporuku preostalih Su30, i raspisaće tender za 60 novih aviona , ali na tom tenderu neće biti mesta za Ruse, jer bi ovo bio već drugi "Fjasko" u Alžirsko-ruskim aranžmanima kupovanja aviona(Suhoji su došli kao zamena odbijenim SMTmigovima 29, zbog lošeg kvaliteta izrade)
Algeria has requested an official explanation from the Russian side about the high percentage of Israeli components in the avionics of its Su-30MKA. It happened after the Algerian Air Force launched a service of the first plane, obtained in 2007 the Algerian Air Force fear that on-board computer - a think tank of the Su-30MKA - largely influenced the Israeli technologies and interact with the Israeli system of IAI Elta EL / M8222 [on-board jamming - A.2] and head-up displays Elbit Systems SU967. Concerns have been caused by the fact that the new generation of avionics in the Su-27 can be targeted cyber attacks by Israel in the event of hostilities. In Algeria, there is no self-test unit, so Algeria took the floor to Russia assurances that no Israeli aircraft in the components.

In contrast to the Su-30MKM raised in Malaysia, Algeria has not put forward specific requirements for its Su-30MKA and selecting equipment Su-30MKI, which includes a mix of French, Israeli, Russian and Indian electronics.

This discovery can be pulled far-reaching consequences, as it is now Algeria raises the question as to the proportion of Israeli components installed in the recently purchased the company Istrium satellite systems, as well as many other weapons systems, challenges in service in Algeria.

Algeria already has a history of failure of Israeli platforms, components and rupture of cooperation with relevant manufacturers. For example, in 2008 after four years of operation have been taken out of service two helicopters Eurocopter EC225 in VIP versions (serial numbers and registration 2600/7T-WVA and 2623/7T-WVB), after it became aware of the availability of these electronic equipment manufacturing company Elbit. It also signaled the end of the close relations between Algeria and the company Eurocopter.

Instead, French helicopters replaced analogs produced by his arch rival - by AugustaWestland - AW109, AW139, AW101 and Super Linx.

The fiasco of the MiG-29 in May 2007, which resulted in Algeria returned 15 of 34 ordered aircraft, and then generally declined from the contract because of poor quality, has resulted in aircraft that were several years in storage in Russia. Both countries have settled their differences and instead signed a contract for delivery of 28 Su-30MKA in the period 2007-2009.

Despite this rich history, the future of the Su-30MKA and Yak-130 in Algeria is the magazine Air Forces Monthly unclear. If Algiers decided to cease cooperation with Russia after the recent events, the Russian Air Force will face difficulties in implementing their own plans for upgrading, so a significant portion of this comes from the realization of export contracts [this statement is puzzling, as the program of military equipment in the Russian Air Force funded at the expense of the state defense order - approx. A.2]. Algeria may announce a new tender for the supply of 60 fighters, in which the aircraft will have no place in Russia.
http://vpk.name/news/63336_alzhir_obespokoen_izrai.....nthly.html

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Ko se tu pravi glup a ko lud? Pa valjda znaju Alžirci da je u ruskim avionima izraelska avionika a Rusi da su Alžirci alergični na nju. Rusi bi trebali ugrađivati samo svoje komponente, dok ugradnju neruske robe samo prema izrićitoj naruđbi kupca.

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Ne bas, imaju Rusi puno iskustva u prosla dva vjeka, da njihova tehnologija odmah krene na zapad na testiranje.

Valjda zadnja stvarenja cuvaju zase. Meni jest logicno, da se za izvoz daje mjesanica opreme, ako se ne dogovori drugcije, jasno.

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Ja bi rekao da je to sve posledica novih "demokratskih" vlasti i poziv za dolazak Rafala, Tajfuna ili neceg od preko okeana.

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@ Vlada
Kod njih jos nisu izvedene "demokratske" promene,nego "...imamo pare za trosenje na vojsku,pa hajde da malo zaguljujemo...".
Samo moje vidjenje.
Inace,od kada su se to sukobljavali Alzirci i Izraelci,pa im sad smeta Izraelska avionika na Su-30?!
Zasto nisu trazili od rusa da izmiksuju njihovu i Francusku opremu jos dok su vodjeni pregovori o zameni?!

Ili mozda Alzirci i nemaju bas para,pa se trude svim silama da otkazu deo ugovora za nabavku oruzija,da nebi ispali klovnovi (a sa ovakvim cepidlacenjem bas to i ispadaju)...

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OFF;
@ Vlada
Ma samo da oni iskupuju dovoljno kvalitetnog oruzija,pa ce moci da praktikuju svoje sopstveno vidjenje demokratije,a ne nametnutu demokratiju,kao u Libiji i za dlaku u Siriji Very Happy

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jazbar ::Ko se tu pravi glup a ko lud? Pa valjda znaju Alžirci da je u ruskim avionima izraelska avionika a Rusi da su Alžirci alergični na nju. Rusi bi trebali ugrađivati samo svoje komponente, dok ugradnju neruske robe samo prema izrićitoj naruđbi kupca.

A Alzirci kao ne znaju sta kupuju ? Tekst vapi za mrmotom



Svaka verzija Su-30 ima slovo koje oznacava drzavu ali ne samo radi oznake nego i svaki ima nesto svoje. Sami narucuju uz izvozne Su-30 sta zele. I onda 5 godina koriste avion i preko noci izvale " ju pa ovo nije ruski HUD nego Elbit izraelski" Glupiraju se. Da u svetlu dogadjaja i oni malo pokazu kako su muslimani i satro mrze Izrael.

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Napisano: 16 Jan 2012 13:04

Mislim da je bilo reci da su u avionima MKA samo francuska i ruska oprema, ne i izraelska. Ali negde ima i podatak da je ''vecina opreme ruska i francuska''.

HUD u MKA je izgleda ipak izraelski ali radjen u Indiji po licenci. Ovaj info bi mogli i proveriti, mozda preko slika.

Dopuna: 16 Jan 2012 13:26

Ево још неких појашњења.

http://rehtym3.livejournal.com/66083.html

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