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Poslao: 20 Apr 2013 20:42
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Mozda je malo glupo pitanje ali zna li neko gdje je nestao Su-30MK plava 501 ?
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 22 Apr 2013 14:36
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Indonesia to have 16 Su-27/30s by end of 2013
Citat:Jakarta received two Su-30MK2s in February 2013, and expects four more by the end of the year, says deputy defence minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin. These six were originally ordered in December 2011.
The Indonesian air force's current Sukhoi fleet comprises 12 aircraft: two Su-27SKs, three Su-27SKMs, two Su-30MKs, and five Su-30MK2s, with the latter including the two aircraft delivered earlier this year.
The Indonesian air force will also obtain a simulator in 2014 to train its pilots. At present, Indonesian Sukhoi pilots undergo simulator training in China.
 http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/indonesi.....13-384940/
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Poslao: 22 Apr 2013 15:38
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Napisano: 22 Apr 2013 15:29
Ponesto o samom 501 te MKK prototipovima uopste sa wiki
Citat:Sukhoi saw enormous potential to meet China's requirement with its Su-30MK, while incorporating technology from the Su-27M, to develop a new fighter that preserved the type's iconic tall and thick carbon-fibre-reinforced-plastic fins as fuel tanks for longer range. The type was to be designated as Su-30MKK ("Modernizirovannyi Kommercheskiy Kitayski" – Modernised Commercial for China).[2]
Final details of the agreement were settled during the Zhuhai Air Show in 1998. The official agreement was signed in Russia by the Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji in March 1999. That same month, a "Bort 501 Blue" prototype made its first flight at the Zhukovsky Air Base.
O radarima
Citat:Airborne radar on board Su-30MKK has been continuously upgraded and a total of three were confirmed so far, all of which are controlled by RLPK-27VE integrated radar targeting system, developed from the RLPK-27 system of single seat Su-27. Both systems are designed by the famous designer Professor Viktor Konstantinovitch Grishin of the Tikhomirov Scientific Research Institute of Instrument Design (NIIP), and is compatible with various radar and weaponry systems.
N001VEP radar: The first 20 Su-30MKK have an N001VEP fire-control radar designed by the Chief designer Professor Viktor Konstantinovitch Grishin of the Tikhomirov Scientific Research Institute of Instrument Design (NIIP) with a range up to 100 km, able to concurrently track 10 targets, and engage four air targets or two ground targets of the 10 tracked. The N001VEP is developed from the earlier N001VE radar designed by the same designer, which was used on J-11A. The original Baguet series processor of N001VE radar is replaced by its successor Baguet-55 series. Like its predecessor, the new radar has incorporated the moving target indication (MTI) and mapping capabilities, and capability to detect low flying / hovering helicopters. The scan sector of N001VEP is 120 degrees while the elevation is 110 degrees.
Zhuk-MS radar: From the 21st Su-30MKK on, the N001VEP radar is replaced by Zhuk-MS (Beetle-MS) fire control radar of Tikhomirov (NIIP)'s competitor, Phazotron (NIIR), which also adopts a slotted planar array antenna like N001VEP radar. The new radar has longer range coverage (up to 150 km) and able to guide a greater variety of weapons systems. The number of targets that can be engaged is identical to that of N001VEP radar, but the number of targets that can be simultaneously tracked has been doubled to 20. Zhuk (Beetle)-MS radar is an improvement of the earlier Zhuk (Beetle) radar designed for Su-27 and MiG-29 upgrades, and incomparison to the original Zhuk radar, Zhuk-MS has the following improvements in addition to increased range and number of targets tracked/engaged:
The diameter of antenna is increased to 960 mm from the original 680 mm of Zhuk (Beetle) radar
The peak power is increased to 6 kW from the original 5 kW of Zhuk (Beetle) radar
The average power is increased to 1.5 kW from the original 1 kW of Zhuk (Beetle) radar
Contrary to many erroneous claims, Zhuk-MS is not a phased array radar, but instead, with a slotted planar array antenna.
Zhuk-MSE radar: Zhuk-MS has been replaced by its successor, Zhuk-MSE in the incremental upgrades of Su-30MKK, and previous Zhuk-MS are being upgraded to the Zhuk-MSE level. In comparison to Zhuk-MS radar, most performance parameter remain the same, but the number of ground targets that can be simultaneously engaged is increased to four from the original two. Like Zhuk-MS, this radar has also been erroneously reported to be a phased array radar when in fact, it utilizes a slotted planar array antenna. Phazotron the designer has claimed the new radar has better ECCM capabilities than earlier radars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-30MKK
Sa paralaj na engl
http://paralay.net/su30.html
@frenki1986
Bio je 501 aktivan i nakon tog pozara iz 2005g ,sada je pitanje sta je sa njim i imamo li neku sliku novijeg datuma ?
Fotke 501 i 502 od 2006g
http://www.myaviation.net/search/search.php?view=&aircraft=Sukhoi%20Su-30MKK
Dopuna: 22 Apr 2013 15:38
Jos 3 fotke 501 koje mozda nismo imali od sada 
  
Zadnja slika je kao i ova sa MAKS-2007
Zanimljiv pregled Su-30 sa jednog sajta
Citat:Se utilizaron células del programa Su-27UB.
1987 : T-10U-2 "02" + sistema de reabastecimiento en vuelo = T-10PU "02"
1988 : T-10U-5 "05" + integración de aviónica = T-10PU-5/Su-27PU/Su-30 "05", 1º prototipo
1989 : T-10U-6 "06" + aviónica + reabastecimiento = T-10PU-6/Su-27PU/Su-30 "06", 2º prototipo
Citat:Producción
Las aeronaves 596 y 597 quedaron en manos de IAPO y fueron utilizadas para el desarrollo de los proyectos Su-30MKI, Su-30MKM y Su-30MKA. La PVO concentró los Su-27PU/Su-30 en el 54º GIAP (Regimiento de Caza de la Guardia) en Base Aérea Savaslyeyka.
1992 : T-10PU/Su-30 "596" = 1º aeronave de serie (Nº de serie 01-01)
1992 : T-10PU/Su-30 "597" = 2º aeronave de serie (Nº de serie 01-02)
1992 : T-10PU/Su-30 "51" = 3º aeronave de serie (Nº de serie 01-03)
1993 : T-10PU/Su-30 "52" = 4º aeronave de serie (Nº de serie 01-04)
1993 : T-10PU/Su-30 "53" = 5º aeronave de serie (Nº de serie 01-05)
1993 : T-10PU/Su-30 "54" = 6º aeronave de serie (Nº de serie 01-06)
1993 : T-10PU/Su-30 "55" = 7º aeronave de serie (Nº de serie 01-07)
1993 : T-10PU/Su-30 "56" = 8º aeronave de serie (Nº de serie 01-08 )
izvor
http://www.taringa.net/posts/info/15534408/Sukhoi-Su-30.html
Eto sada imamo i ser brojeve aviona pored vec navedenih fabr.
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Poslao: 22 Apr 2013 17:29
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Hm ,nije li mozda onaj 501 posluzio mozda za konverziju na ove M2 ?
Svojevremeno je jedan od ser. Su-30 ( Bort 55 plavi ) konvertovan u prototip MK2.
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Uspio sam mu nac slike do 2009.te a dalje nema nekog slikovitog traga. Radim tu maketu pa bi mi jako dobro doslo vise slika istog . 
Izgleda se nije ni isplatilo popravljat plavu 501,to je morao da bude pravi pozar .
