MMRCA za IAF

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Al hoce onaj A.K Anthony rafala pa makar crko...i makar pogazili sve sto su kao stavili za uslov...

Citat:Because of the technological complexity of the fighter, the majority of the workload in the production of 126 fighter jets to India should be provided by French companies.

Negotiations continue to go well between Dassault Aviation and the Indian Department of Defense to reach an agreement. The two partners have not yet converted into a commercial contract the selection of the Rafale that took place in February, placing the French manufacturer as the exclusive partner for the acquisition of 126 fighters. Dassault Aviation, is reassuring on the progress of negotiations, highlighting the complexity of technical, commercial, and legal negotiations of this type of deal.

Moreover, little is known of the industrial sharing between the two countries. Only certainty: 18 aircraft will be assembled in the factory of Dassault Merignac, Gironde and the remaining 108 in India . However, sources indicate that the French division of labor remain very much in favor of French, even believing that they would keep well over 50% of production associated with all future contract.

That would be good news for the Franco-French supply chain of the Rafale: the manufacturer does indeed contract almost exclusively to French companies for the production of its combat aircraft. In total, 500 companies are involved mobilizing about 7,000 jobs.

THE OBSTACLE OF TECHNOLOGICAL COMPLEXITY

Several factors could explain this favourable share to French industrialists, despite the original tender issued by New Delhi included industrial offsets amounting to 50% of the contract value as well as technology transfer. First, as for commercial aircraft of type Boeing or Airbus , assembling a fighter represent only a modest fraction of the total value of the unit, about 15% according to some experts.

Second Indian companies are far away from mastering the technology to produce the complex electronic equipments present in the Rafale. Their contribution could therefore be quite limited at first, and organized around elements of the fuselage, the wings, the canopy ... As to produce sub-critical assemblies of the device as the radar antenna active electronics of Thales , the mastery of these skills appears remote.

Third, the Indian government is seeking to benefit from expertise of France and its military aircraft manufacturer, to reorganize its military aircraft industry.

Discussion points between the Indian and French partners is not lacking, which augur yet long months of negotiations before signing the final contract.

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Napisano: 08 Sep 2012 19:50

India to ink $11 billion MMRCA deal with Rafale by next month: Indian Air Force official

Citat:India plans to sign the $11 billion MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) deal with French Rafale by the end of this month-end or next month, a senior Indian Air Force official said today.

"I find no reason why it shouldn't be signed by the end of this month or next month", Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Training Command, IAF, Air Marshal Rajinder Singh said.

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Dopuna: 21 Sep 2012 16:11

^^^^^ Ipak......

Citat:The purchase deal for 126 Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) fighter planes should be signed by April 2013, Air Chief Marshal N.A.K.Browne, Chief of Air Staff, said.

“Negotiations are on. We should be able to finish [the contract] this financial year. It is a complex process. We are discussing offsets, transfer of technology, HAL’s [Hindustan Aeronautics Limited] role and the cost, of course. It is progressing well,” he said on Thursday.

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Dopuna: 07 Nov 2012 17:38

Razvlace ga samo tako....
Citat:The multi-billion dollar contract between the Indian Air Force and the Dassault Aviation of France for the supply of 126 Rafale fighters will be concluded in the next three to four months, India’s Ambassador to France has said.

“The Rafale deal is in the final stages and hopefully it should be concluded in the next 3 to 4 months,” Ambassador Rakesh Sood told members of the Indian Journalists Association at the India House here yesterday.

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Dopuna: 17 Nov 2012 19:55

Za to vreme otvaraju fabrike.....
Citat:India’s state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) has launched a new factory to manufacture advanced avionics for aircraft and helicopters. The factory, named Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. Strategic Electronics Factory, will be inaugurated Nov. 17 by Defence Minister A.K. Antony in his home state of Kerala.

The factory will cater to the avionics needs of the Medium Multirole Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) and the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft being developed jointly with Russia, said a Defence Ministry official.

The first phase of the project, built at a cost of more than $12 million, will manufacture special purpose computers, including mission computers and radar computers.
Citat:In the second phase, the factory will manufacture active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar.

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Gospoda Francuzi malo hoce da daju TOT a kad treba da se potpise onda malo nece...

Nece da daju HAL-u toliko nego bi da rade sa privatnikom niti zele da im daju tehnologiju AESA radara "jer Indijci nisu dovoljno zreli za tu tehnologiju" I offset je problem, bune se i francuske firme da im se ne daju poslovi.

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Nece ni Kaveri razvijati sa francuskom Snecmom nego idu na tender za partnera

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Za mesec dana je Aero India 2013...

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Napisano: 17 Jan 2013 15:41

Indijci mozda podignu narudzbinu za dodatnih 63 aviona Rafale

Citat:India could buy up to 189 of the Rafale fighter jets currently being used by France to bomb Islamist militants in Mali, sources close to negotiations on the multi-billion dollar deal have told AFP. The possibility of an additional 63 jets being added to an expected order
for
126 was raised by India when foreign minister Salman Khurshid visited Paris last week, they said.


"There is an option for procurement of an additional 63 aircrafts subsequently for which a separate contract would need to be signed," a source said.

"Presently the contract under negotiation is for 126 aircraft but we are talking about the follow-up."

The Indian press has estimated the value of the deal for 126 Rafales at $12 billion (nine billion euros).

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Dopuna: 07 Feb 2013 17:01

French president to negotiate $12bn Rafale jet deal in India next week

Citat:France's Dassault Aviation hopes to conclude its $12-billion deal to sell Rafale jets to India this year, with negotiations set to be taken up by President Francois Hollande next week.

"The ideal would be to sign it in 2013," Dassault chief executive Eric Trappier told AFP in an interview about the world's biggest defence deal at India's air show in Bangalore.

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Dopuna: 16 Feb 2013 10:40

I David Cameron stize u Indiju
Citat:David Cameron is to press the case of the British-backed Eurofighter Typhoons during a visit to India next week, amid hopes that New Delhi’s plans to buy a rival French jet in a $14bn (£9bn) deal may collapse.

Amid signs that the prime minister’s trip could be overshadowed by a row over a separate £483m helicopter deal, No 10 made clear that Cameron would go out of his way to promote the Eurofighter when he meets his Indian counterpart Manmohan Singh.

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Price tussle could delay Rafale’s sortie to India
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Citat:Highly placed sources told FE on condition of anonymity that soon after Dassault emerged the lowest bidder (L-1), beating its rival Eurofighter on life cycle costs, the French side has been demanding more money for the transfer of technology and is not very comfortable on the production of the fighter machines at a later stage at state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).
Citat:The French, it appears, are unwilling to transfer technology such as that of the electronically scanned AESA radar, citing lack of maturity of the Indian defence industry to absorb critical technologies.
Odluka francuske politike je da se održi samostalnost u nekoliko ključnih vojnih tehnologija. AESA radar spada u to. I da neće da dele. To će biti problem jer off set 50% i radar je skupa komponenta u kalkulacije cene.

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Para vrti gde burgija neće. Ja razumem Francuze mnogo su para potrošili za razvoj tehnologije, da ju sada za "male" pare podele sa drugima. A Indijci imaju pare i druge ponuđaće.

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Indian Air Force has selected the Dassault Rafale as preferred bidder for its 126 Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) requirement (6 squadrons).


Indian 'n French AirForce - Flying the Rafale. [Episode: 1]

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Indian 'n French AirForce - The Story Behind Rafale. [Episode: 2]

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Indian Air Force - Dassault Rafale [HD]

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Francuzi i dalje pokusavaju da prodaju Tajfuna Indiji...

MMRCA Negotiations Stalled Over Dassault-HAL Tussle: Report

Sad nece da im daju licencnu proizvodnju nego da im posalju gotove delove a da ovi samo sklapaju jer Dassault nece da odgovara za avione proizvedene u Indiji od strane HAL-a.

Citat:What started as a point of difference between the defence ministry and Dassault over the role of HAL escalated after the firm told Indian negotiators that the government will have to sign separate contracts — one with Dassault for 18 'fly-away' aircraft and another with HAL, which will produce 108 jets under licence.

Dassault said it will supply manufacturing kits and equipment to HAL on time after which the contract with HAL will take over and Dassault will play no further role.

MoD is learnt to have completely rejected this suggestion and made it clear to Dassault that it will be solely responsible for the sale and delivery of all 126 aircraft. The deal will be only with Dassault and it will be the single point of contact, sources said.

The problem has its roots in the request for proposal document, which mandated that the winning firm will supply 18 aircraft and licence manufacture 108 in India. Also, it specified HAL as the prime integrator for this purpose.

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PM, Sharma Germany-bound to boost ties

Citat:The meeting would focus on the multi-role fighter jet deal and the much-awaited India-European Union (EU) trade pact. Issues related to the Eurofighter Typhoon are expected to feature prominently, following India's decision to buy 126 Rafale fighter jets from French aviation giant Dassault for $12 billion. Last year, Eurofighter Typhoon lost the bid; Dassault emerged the lowest bidder. A senior official told Business Standard it was expected Germany would push Eurofighter's case.

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Nije Tajfun nego Rafale

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Ukoliko propadne dil oko Rafale,opcija je jos nabavka SU-30.
Navodno za EF2000 nece ni da pregovaraju.

Citat:The Indian Air Force (IAF) is coming up with a contingency plan to procure fighter jets to maintain its operational preparedness in case the medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) deal worth over $15 billion to procure 126 Rafale jets does not go through.
The backup plan will see the IAF opting for 50 more Sukhoi-30 MKI jets to be bought off the shelf from Russia. The IAF has already inducted 100 SU-30s and will have 200 more jets in the next three to four years excluding the ones forming part of contingency project.

Citat:Sources also said if the deal does not go through, the Government will not negotiate with the second lowest bidder Eurofighter

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