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Hvala kolegama na savjetima i šemama.Uspio sam saznati da se hladno pokretanj izvodi se 24V bez prevezivanja na 48V,bez uključenj paljenja i bez uključenja pumpe i ventila goriva za pokretanje.Šaljem slike svjećica za osnovno i forsažno paljenje,lopatice turbine,slavina,elektromagnetski ventila,namotaja za paljenje i igle za podešavanje pritiska vazduha.


















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I taj si trebo u sahovnicu ofarbat,bilo bi lepo videt susku u nekim toplijim krajevima Very Happy

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Bubi
Lijepe slike pojedinih elemenata - samo mali zahtjev - ako bi mogao umetnuti fotografije s pogledom na pločama
Ako bilo koji od mojih kolega je želio znati što agregat - to bi bilo lakše i brže odgovoriti.
No Hvala za slike - postoji nekoliko pregleda svih pojedinih dijelova zrakoplova Ziveli Ziveli

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Vidim da na forumu ima dosta strucnih ljudi - korisnika tog samaljota.
Zato nije nemoguce dobiti odgovor ima li istine u americkim navodima o tom avionu i ako ima, kako je to moguce ???


Red Flag 2008-4 : Lecture by USAF Col. Terrence Fornof

Now they come to Mountain Home, and the Su-30 unit that they bring was a regular operational unit – with an experience mix of about 50-50 (experienced vs inexperienced). Their experienced guys had all come off the MiG-21 Bison.. The MiG-21 bison is a pretty neat airplane. It is based on the MiG-21 as many of you guys know from the Vietnam (War) era, but upgraded with an F-16 radar built by the Israelis in the nose, active radar missile, and they carry an Israeli jammer on it would practically make them invisible to our legacy radar in the F-15 and F-16.
Remember days in 4477th (4477 Test and Evaluation Squadron)... MiG-21 had the capability to get into the scissors with you, 110 knots, 60 degrees nose high, go from 10,000 feet to 20,000 feet, very manoeuvrable airplane, but it didn't have any good weapons. Now it has high off bore sight Archer missile, helmet mounted sight, active missile, and a jammer that gets it into the merge, good radar, so that's the plane the SU-30 experienced pilots came out of and they were pretty good in the engaged fight.

The Koreans bought in their brand spankin' new F-15Ks. beautiful aircraft, with AESA radar and all like on the F-22. Had Israeli targeting and jamming pods on them. Incredible airplanes. Very professional also. But they had less than 50 hours total on the F-15 it and none on the airplane, they were still learning the aircraft. So it did not have any significant impact.
Gonna happen and thank god the Raptor still has a gun on it. It's fast, its manoeuvrable, .... and the Block 50 (and 52 EHRM P&W FTW), is pretty good dogfighter also, so these aircraft, the F-15, Block 50 F-16, and the Raptor, are still very capable aircraft, because when the Bison MiG-21 that gets in unseen with the small RCS and a big jamming pod.... going to need manoeuvrability.

- MiG-21 Bison does not have an Israeli radar as noted in the lecture. The type is equipped with a Phazotron Kopyo (spear) unit. The Kopyo radar has a 57km detection range against a 5 m^2 (54ft^2) radar cross section, or fighter-sized target. It can track eight targets and shoot at two simultaneously.
- This is not the first time the MiG-21 Bison has been praised for successes during dissimilar air combat training (DACT) – even during previous USAF exercise and internal IAF exercises pilots are known to have scored kills against more advanced adversaries. The small size (lower visual signature) and inherently small radar cross section coupled with modern avionics, radar, effective jammers, precision guided munitions and missiles (R-73, R-77) make Bison one of the best fighters in IAF after Su-30 and Mirage-2000.

The Indians flew a number of different fighters, including the French-made Mirage 2000 and the Russian-made MIG-27 and MIG-29, but the two most formidable IAF aircraft proved to be the MIG-21 Bison, an upgraded version of the Russian-made baseline MIG-21, and the SU-30K Flanker, also made in Russia, Neubeck said.
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Znam da pitanje nije u okviru teme ali se bas pitam gde je gosn djordje i njegovi "biseri znanja"

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babcia131 ::Ne znam jesam li dobro razumjel.
Je MiG-21 poletio s otvorenim poklopcima kotača ?
To je prilično nemoguće. Čini mi se da je slika snimljena nedugo nakon početka [flaps skriveni]
,skriveni kotači i odmah se zatvara poklopac.
Bubi

Jedini sheme pokretanja motor 37F2S da imam








Ova šema startovanja je za motor R-37F2S i R-37F2SK (naše oznake motora MM-14 i MM-15), ali se malo razlikuju od šeme za motor R-37F, jer se on startovao benzinom, koji je bio u posebnom rezervoaru ("bačoku"). Benzin se ubrizgavao pomoću zupčaste pumpe PNR10-9M1.
Na glavnom motorskom priključku su nožice (-pinovi) 2, 11 i 41 vezane na masu, odnosno na kućište motora i aviona, što je i minus pol izvora jednosmerne struje.
Na šemama startovanja se glavni motorski priključak obično označava sa ŠR-3.
Oznake na šemi startovanja, koje je dao Babcia, koje imaju oznaku /3 se odnose na ŠR-3. Npr, ventil EMV je spojen na 30/3 i 41/3, što znači na nožice 30 i 41 na ŠR-3.
Na šemi upravljanja režimima rada su za isti priključak dali oznaku /Д.

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Citat:Znam da pitanje nije u okviru teme ali se bas pitam gde je gosn djordje i njegovi "biseri znanja"
Otiš'o čovek da proslavi 1. maj, nije zaludan da sedi za kompIjuterom Smile

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znam da mi pitanje odstupa od zapocete diskusije, ali verujem da nije navazno ?
nisam te struke ali mozda je na forumu neko ko jeste, da to rashcivija ?

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DEMIR ::Znam da pitanje nije u okviru teme ali se bas pitam gde je gosn djordje i njegovi "biseri znanja"

Napustio forum .

@firebar

Kolega pomenuo si da ima dosta strucnih ljudi -korisnika MiG-21 ? Confused

Ako te interesuje kako je u mnogim simulacionim BVB izlazio kao pobednik pa imas odgovor na kraju samog citata/komentara.
Omalen sa malom vizuelnom i radarskom vidljivoscu ,odlicno ubrzanje/penjanje,nova i savremena avionika ,rakete V-V te veoma korisni naslemni nisanski sistem (kao onaj na MiG-29 ) itd .
Jeste da je avion bas ono star ali eto sa nekim novitetima ostaje dostojan protivnik cak i najnovijim lovcima . Wink

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