Irbis ::Koliko je isplativo ponovo pokrenuti proizvodnju kada prave PAK DA?
Taj prijekat je na prilicno dugom stapu, a ova masina pruza jos neiskoriscenih mogucnosti.
Nove isporuke modernizovanih do kraja godine...
ВВС России до конца года получат два Ту-160 и 12 Ту-22М3 после ремонта и модернизации на Казанском авиазаводе
Evo sta pisu Poljaci o procesu modernizacije ali i pokretanja serijske proizvodnje ...
Russia is working to modernize its strategic aviation to maintain a deterrence capability
Citat:Russian Strategic Aviation modernization programs involve Tu-160 and Tu-95 bombers.
According to the rumors reported by the Polish Altair media outlet, the Kazan-based KAZ (Kazanskiy Aviatsyonniy Zavod) facility would be ready to start building brand new Tu-160 Blackjacks.
15 more bombers are needed to maintain Moscow’s strategic deterrence capability: out of 12-13 Tupolevs of this type in the Russian Air Force, only 5 examples are combat capable, only one of those has been modernized since it entered active service.
The news of Soviet-era production lines reopened or sold to China have emerged in the last years and denied shortly thereafter so the rumors should be taken with a grain of salt. Anyway, provided the news is well-founded, the decision to reactivate the production line of the Tu-160 would be a sign that it is probably easier and more cost-effective to build new Blackjacks and refurbish the existing ones, instead of waiting for a completely new strategic bomber R&D program, as the PAK-DA.
Indeed, many believe the Russian industry lacks technology and resources to produce the PAK-DA, the next generation strategic bomber, a subsonic flying wing-shaped aircraft with radar-evading capabilities, advanced electronic warfare systems and able to carry new nuclear-capable long-range cruise missiles, destined to replace Moscow’s aging fleet of Tu-95 Bear and Tu-160 Blackjack strategic bombers.
According to some analysts the troubled development of the Sukhoi’s PAK-FA, Russia’s fifth generation stealth fighter jet, that still lacks a proper power-plant, is the proof that Moscow’s aerospace industry is simply unable to develop futuristic combat planes.
It is estimated that reactivation of the Backfire production line would cost more than USD 2 billion, while price tag for a single Tu-160M bomber is believed to be around USD 250-350 million.
However, there are many other problems that make the re-opening quite unlikely: as Altair news outlet noted, Tupolev lacks in digital documentation (the documents are being transformed into digital form now, as A claims) and human resources. Production process also involves titanium processing which always has been painful for the Russians. It was visible e.g. back in the 1970’s, when MiG-25 was designed. The airplane, instead of being made out of thermally resistant titanium, was made mainly out of steel. What is more, some components of the Tu-160 bombers came from Ukraine – acquisition of these, in the current geopolitical context, would be difficult at best.
Russia is currently in a dire situation economically, hence the news about the relaunch/modernization of the Blackjacks raises some doubts. If that is not enough, TASS agency claimed that Moscow is also going to upgrade ten examples of the Tu-95MS Bear strategic bombers. The modernization is going to focus on radio-electronic portion of the aircraft, including navigation and landing-assistance systems. All in all, Russian MoD claims that about 70% of the Russian strategic aviation inventory is to be modernized by 2020.
Da ponovimo...Bort br. 11 `Vasilij Senjko` je 5 -ti po redu Tu-160M ,prvi je Bort br. 07 `Aleksandr Molodci` koji je proizveden 1999g a modernizovan i predan u VVS 2005,drugi je Bort br. 19 `Valentin Bliznjok` ( proizveden 1986g iz predserije/opitna serija )predan u VVS 2006g ,treci Tu-160M je izgleda zadnji serijski proizvedeni Bort br. 08 `Vitalij Kopiljov` predan u VVS 2008 i 4 -ti je Bort br.18 `Andrej Tupoljev` predan u VVS u dec. prosle godine ( iz prve serije i dosao iz AB Priluki ) ...
vise detalja na 73 oj stanici ...
Pored `V.Senjka` na kapremontu/modernizaciji bi trebalo da su barem jos 2 `labuda` ako ne i vise ??? s obzirom da postoje info da ce samo ove godine tj do kraja godine biti isporuceno jos 2 Tu-160M ,dakle pored `Senjka` jos jedan modernizovani .
Ranije je bilo i ovo ...
Russian long range aviation to get 6 more modernized Tupolev Tu-160 bombers in 2015
Citat:MOSCOW, December 23. /TASS/. Russia’s Long Range Aviation will get another 6 modernized strategic bombers Tupolev Tu-160 in 2015 and will bring the number of Tu-95MS bombers to 43, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force Colonel General Viktor Bondarev said on Tuesday.
“In 2015, we will receive another 6 Tu-160 planes and bring the number of the Tu-95 up to 43,” Bondarev said.
postavio je djox na pocetku 74 te str .. ovo mi malo oprecno i nejasno i nekako mi ne ide da ce ove godine pored Senjka biti jos 5 Tu-160M ....ipak pogresno .
Inace po ugovoru iz 2002 g KAPO je trebao da modernizuje svih tada 15 operativnih Tu-160 do sadasnje 2015te ( 2003 je izgubljen `Mihail Gromov` pa oh je bilo 14 ,zatim 2006 dolazi`V.Bliznjok` kao zamena za izgubljeni Bort br. 01 a onda 2008 novi Bort `V.Kopiljov` kao 16ti operativni u VVS )
jos nesto od ranije ..
Citat:Капитальный ремонт (замена 30-40% агрегатов) с модернизацией (установка нового навигационного комплекса) занимает в среднем три года работ и примерно 300 млн рублей.
Citat:Jedan podatak od 2012 g
Сейчас на данный момент на авиазаводе в казани проходят ремонт и модернизацию сразу пять наших самолётов-ракетоносцев Ту-160.
Ovo znaci da pored Senjka u KAPO sad imamo jos 3 `labuda` ,`A.Tupoljev` je VVS predan u dec. prosle godine ...i evo 2 tokom ove ..
Jos jednom o obnavljanju proizvodnje B.labudova ...
Jedna odlicna ilustracija ...
Шойгу поручил проработать вопрос о возобновлении производства Ту-160
Citat:Ту-160 - самый крупный и самый мощный в истории военной авиации сверхзвуковой самолет с изменяемой геометрией крыла. По словам министра обороны, это уникальная машина, чьи конструктивные возможности до сих пор не раскрыты в полной мере.
Bort br.18 `Andrej Tupoljev`( iz prve serije i dosao iz AB Priluki )
Ispravka .. on je iz 6- te serije ( ser.br. 6-05 ) i zadnji proizvedeni u SSSR 1991g
Citat:Как ранее сообщал военный блог bmpd, 19 декабря 2014г., в очередной Единый день приемки военной продукции, Военно-воздушным силам России в Казани был передан первый прошедший модернизацию «первого этапа» Ту-160. Переданный самолет носит собственное название «Андрей Туполев».
Самолет был построен в 1991г. и стал последним Ту-160, поступившим до распада СССР в состав 184-го гвардейского тяжелого бомбардировочного авиационного полка в Прилуках на Украине. В 1999г. борт стал одним из восьми Ту-160, полученных российской стороной с Украины.
Drugar jel imas info koji je to Bort koji ce pored V.Senjka biti isporucen do kraja godine VVS ?
Da li ima neka slika /snimak na kojem se jasnije moze uociti njegov naziv ,ranije smo imali neke fotke ali je to prilicno iz daleka slikano pa se ne vidi ...