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Mr. Majevica ::Шта ли ови пишу ? 
Citat:https://disarmament-library.un.org/UNODA/Library.nsf/e5e236cc645fcd048525731d006514e5/ae7c5fdec52bcdae852573440049a8e9/$FILE/a-62-170.pdf
Neki podaci o naoruzavanju gruzijskih OS u periodu 2004-08
Citat:The numbers above should also be viewed in light of the following disclosures about arms shipments to Georgia over 2004-2008: 10 UH-1-H helicopters and 230 wheeled vehicles (including 15 Hummers delivered by AM General, LLC - a firm whose financials I know as intimately as is possible...) from the U.S., with 15 UH-60 Blackhawks on tap; 7 152mm self-propelled guns, 16 ZSU-23 AAA guns, and 300 RPG-7s, 500 "Igla" MANPADS (man-portable air defense systems) and 150 "Kornet" and "Konkurs" ATGMs, 4 SU-25 attack aircraft, two light troop ships, 10 thousand crates of AK-47 assault rifles and RPG 22s plus ammunition, and 650 tons of ammunition from Bulgaria; 66 APCs, 1186 AMD-65 assault rifles, 44 PKM machine-guns, 600 82mm mortar rounds and an unspecified amount of 7.62mm ammunition from Hungary; 1 missile boat and 2 patrol ships plus 60 mortars from Greece; 14 thousand AK assault rifles from Lithuania; 60 RN-94 APCs, 2 UH-1 helicopters, one patrol ship, 2,500 MP5A1(k) SMGs, 1,500 G3 A3 assault rifles, 4,000 122mm rockets and 20,000 155mm artillery shells, plus a large amount of 7.62mm ammunition and hand grenades from Turkey; one multiple rocket launcher with 4 Mirage fighter aircraft, 2 missile boats and upwards of 60-65 "Mistrale" and "Mistrale-2" MANPADS from France; 120 T-54 or T-55 and 55 T-72 tanks, plus 24 "Dana" 152mm self-propelled artillery vehicles, 25 M-75 120mm mortars, 200 "Strela" MANPADs and more than 40 tons of ammunition of all types from the Czech Republic; 8 "Hermes-450" and "Skylark" unmanned recon aircraft from Israel; 45 120mm and 25 82mm mortars plus 500 262mm rockets from Bosnia & Herzegovina; 20 million 7.62mm bullets, plus 1,000 HEAT and 1,690 APFSDS tank shells and other ammunition from Serbia; 31 T-72s, 20 BTR-80s, 40 BMP-2s, 12 152mm "Akatsia" self-propelled artillery vehicles, 9 Mi-24, 2 Mi-8MT and 2 Mi-4 helicopters, 40 tons of ammunition, multiple other specialist vehicles and at least three "Buk"-M1-2 medium-range mobile SAM systems (basically a next-generation version of the SA-11) from the Ukraine.
 http://www.thesaker.net/three-military-analyses-of.....d-georgia/
Kolega raketas je pominjao kako u racunici brojnog stanja nedostaje upravo 500 raketa .. nisu li rakete mozda zaista prodane Gruziji a onih 5 lansera zbog ruskog negodovanja ostalo u BiH ???
Jos jedan izvor pominje 2006 g kad je navodno Gruziji prodano 500 raketa
Citat:In2005, Bosnia and Herzegovina transferred to Georgia through procuring agencies
45 120 mm M75 mortars; in 2006 it transferred 25 82 mm M69A mortars and 500 262 mm
rockets for the “Orkan” M-87 multiple-launch rocket system.
At the end of 2007 and at the beginning of 2008, the Georgian Ministry of Defence
purchased from Bosnia and Herzegovina five “Orkan” multiple-launch rocket systems and a
consignment of missiles for them.
http://www.osce.org/fsc/34253?download=true
i sta je nasa stampa pisala tih godina
Citat:U saopštenju ruskog Ministarstva odbrane navodi se da je BiH u okviru vojne pomoći Gruziji, tamošnjim vlastima prodala 45 minobacača kalibra 120 milimetara modela M75, 25 minobacača kalibra 82 milimetra M69A, te 500 reaktivnih granata 262 milimetra za višecevne bacače raketa tipa „orkan“.
Međutim, oni nisu naveli kad je taj navodni poslovni dogovor BiH i Gruzije realizovan, s obzirom na to da u Ministarstvu spoljne trgovine i ekonomskih odnosa BiH navode da su u poslednjih godinu dana odbili čak osam zahteva za izdavanje dozvola za izvoz naouružanja i vojne opreme u Gruziju.
Citat:Rusi takođe navode da je prema njihovim informacijama BiH pregovarala još o prodaji pet višecevnih bacača raketa tipa „orkan“, deset specijalizovanih kamiona različitih oznaka, 100 granata za „orkan“, 250 minobacača i 250.000 mina za minobacače.
http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Republika-Srpska/53074/Bo.....i-komentar
Znamo da od ovog nije bilo nista jer su Rusi i EU rekli svoje, medjutim ovo oko broja raketa mi je upitno .Znaci prvo se pominje 500 kom a onda u ovom zadnjem citatu 100 kom sto mi je nekako realna ( tada moguca ) brojka bila .
Dakle ovo za 500 raketa bi lako moglo biti da su fantomske /nepostojece( ili u slucaju 500+100=600kom) ? ... jer ako nisu otisle u Gruziju i ostale u BiH za njih bi se znalo zbog opsteg prisustva stranaca ..bilo bi tu slika/snimaka kao u slucaju rak. goriva u SPS npr .Na kraju svega bile bi ovih godina unistene sto bi se znalo u javnosti .
Ovo za 100 raketa je dakle moguce jer imamo sad sve dokumentovano da je 2011 delaborisano 68 kom ,mozda u BiH ima jos neki kontigent pored onih na terenu ?
Takodje ovo za 5 lansera to znamo ( 1 u Kozari i 4 u Visokom ) i ovo sto se pominje 10 spec. vozila to bi trebala biti 2 KVB i 8 VPPR isto u pomenutim kasarnama/skladistima.
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