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Poslao: 20 Apr 2018 12:41
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Ovi samo pisu foto dana i nista drugo.A avion je bez borta i ima pito cev.E sad koji je ovaj?
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 20 Apr 2018 16:18
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- Toni
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Indija se povukla iz projekta
India withdraws from FGFA project, leaving Russia to go it alone
Citat:-India has pulled out of its 11-year collaborative programme with Russia to build a Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft
-The decision has ramifications for both the IAF and the Russian aerospace industry
Citat:The Indian Air Force (IAF) has shelved its 11-year old collaborative Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) programme with Russia following enduring differences over its developmental cost and technological capabilities.
Senior Indian officials, including National Security Adviser Ajit Doval and Defence Secretary Sanjay Mitra, recently informed a visiting Russian ministerial delegation that India was withdrawing from the programme, official sources told Jane’s on 20 April.
The Indian officials are believed to have stated that the IAF could, at a later date, ‘revisit’ the FGFA project or alternatively acquire the fully developed platform once it had been inducted into the Russian Air Force, but did not elaborate.
Industry officials said the FGFA project, in which India’s state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) was the lead developmental agency, also did not feature in talks during Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman’s visit to Moscow in early April.
“The FGFA project had become an instance of too little, too late,” said military analyst and retired air marshal V K Bhatia. To pursue it any longer would not have served the IAF interests in any way as it struggles to make up fast-depleting fighter numbers, he added.
The IAF believes that the Sukhoi Su-57 (T-50 PAK-FA) fighter, which India’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) designated the Perspective Multi-Role Fighter, does not meet its requirements for stealth, combat avionics, radars and sensors. Seven FGFA prototypes are currently undergoing flight-testing in Russia, but for now there is no indication as to when the platform is likely to enter series production.
http://www.janes.com/article/79457/india-withdraws.....o-it-alone
Citat:Russia said the PAK-FA met its needs, but the India Air Force (IAF) wanted a better fighter. So HAL and Sukhoi negotiated an $8.63-billion deal to improve the PAK-FA with the IAF’s requirements of stealth (near-invisibility to radar), super-cruise (supersonic cruising speed), networking (real-time digital links with other battlefield systems) and airborne radar with world-beating range. In all, the IAF demanded some 50 improvements to the PAK-FA, including 360-degree radar and more powerful engines.
Defence ministry sources who played a direct role in negotiations with Russia say much of this money was earmarked for Indian production facilities for manufacturing 127 FGFAs, and for India’s work share in developing advanced avionics for the fighter. It also included the cost of four PAK-FA prototypes for IAF test pilots to fly.
Now, the IAF has backed away from the FGFA because it argues the PAK-FA — which Sukhoi has been test-flying since January 2010 — is not stealthy enough for a fifth-generation combat aircraft.
http://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-p.....029_1.html
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Poslao: 20 Apr 2018 17:17
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Nista cudno vec nekoliko meseci po njihovim forumima pise da je projekat mrtav, prioriteti su avioni koji sad vec lete a ne projekat koji ce mozda biti spreman posle 2025, eventualno ce mozda kupiti odredjen broj T-50 kasnije.
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Poslao: 20 Apr 2018 17:21
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rovac ::Kakav auto go indijci su dali !!!!! Strašno !!!!
Logična stvar. Vidi i Indonezija nekako nema više interesa da razvija avion zajedno sa Koreancima.
Avion je planiran i Rusi kažu da zadovoljava njihove potrebe. U vidu, da ništa slićno osim F-22 neće da leti u sledećoj deceniji.
Indijci su objavili razloge, svoje. I kada su prvi put rekli, da traže dvosed i preinake, onda cena ide samo gore.
Stvarni problemi indijskog vazduhoplostva je broja skvadrona.
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Poslao: 20 Apr 2018 17:31
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Iskreno rečeno, nekako mi milo zbog toga. Indijci su se totalno združili s Amerikancima. Velika je razlika između Indije i Kine. Neka govnari kupe F-35 i nek se usreće.
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Poslao: 20 Apr 2018 17:35
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Ma jasno je meni da oni smo nešto izvoljevaju i izmišljaju!! Ali nemogu da vjerujem da u toj zemlji nema smislene glave i da se oni prilagode nečemu što će dugoooooo biti zver na nebu i da je platforma za tako usavršavanje da je to prosto nevjerovatno !!! Ja nisam neki ekspert za avione čak šta više vrlo malo znam ali indijci mi nisu jasni uopšte!!! Ali neka doći će oni na rudu sami pa će da plate i više nego što treba!! I oni hoće da budu regionalna sila e smiješni su majke mi !!!
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Poslao: 20 Apr 2018 17:35
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Su 57 da izadje u dogledno vreme mogu spasti samo Kinezi ali tesko da ce se odluciti za tako nesto u najmanju ruku bi trazili pristup svim tehnologijama a Indicima nije dozvoljen pristup..zasto bi Kinezima
Indici imaju svojih problema treba da menjau velik broj zastarelih skvadrona.Naravno da im neodgovara da razvijau avion bez pristupa tehnologiji ... imaju hitnije probleme mig 21 treba menjati..
Bez poboljsanja ekonomije ovaj avion ce prilicno kasniti..bojim se
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