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Citat:USAF F-22 Raptors plinked an IS command and control center in a compound in Raqqah.



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Analysis: Long Road for F-22's First Combat Mission



WASHINGTON — The F-22 Raptor has flown its first combat operation, a major milestone for the small air dominance fleet.

An Air Force official confirmed that the Raptor was used over Syria Monday during nighttime operations against the Islamic State (IS) and other militant groups as part of a joint force of US and Arabian Gulf region allies.

“A mix of US aircraft and aircraft from within the US Central Command area of operations conducted the strikes,” the Air Force official said in a statement. “We will not specify the exact numbers of US aircraft or the specific munitions they employed. However, the US aircraft participating in the operation included remotely piloted aircraft, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18 and F-22 fighters and B-1 bombers.

“Additionally, the 47 [Tomahawk missiles] employed by the US in the strikes were launched from USS Arleigh Burke and USS Philippine Sea operating in international waters from the Red Sea and North Arabian Gulf,” the official added. “We are still assessing the outcome of the attack, but have initial indications that the strikes were successful in destroying their intended targets.”

The F-22 fleet has been held back in recent combat operations, in part due to the small size of its fleet. While the Pentagon originally planned on a major buy of the Lockheed Martin-built jets, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates pushed to end the plane’s production in the early days of the Obama administration.

Video: A look at the F-22

The final production model rolled off the floor in December 2011, leaving the service with an inventory of just 187 jets.

Speaking at a Pentagon press briefing, Army Lt. Gen. William Mayville, director of operations for the Joint Chiefs, confirmed the F-22 was used to strike an IS command-and-control facility on the ground in Raqqah using precision-guided munitions.

Depending on loadout, the jet can carry six AIM-120 advanced, medium-range, air-to-air missiles or two AIM-120s and two GBU-32 joint direct-attack munitions for air-to-ground strikes. It also carries an internal 20mm gun and two AIM-9 Sidewinders in internal weapons bays.

The Raptor will likely get another chance at flying in combat, as Mayville warned the strikes are just “the beginning of a sustained campaign.”

US President Barack Obama echoed that sentiment during a brief speech from the White House lawn Tuesday morning, indicating actions will continue over the coming days and, potentially, weeks.

“The overall effort will take time,” Obama warned.

Details on US Air Force operations against IS have been slim, largely due to the fact that the planes operate from allied bases with sensitivities about being home to airstrikes against Muslims. In contrast, the US Navy, which operates its jets from the sovereign territory of aircraft carriers, has released many different videos of their jets in action over Iraq. It has also released footage of Tomahawk strikes from warships.

That sensitivity also clouds where the F-22 jets may have taken off from. In 2013, publicly accessible mapping data showed a squad of F-22s based at al-Dhafra air base in the United Arab Emirates, which was widely seen as a threat pointed at Iran. Later that year, the Air Force confirmed an F-22 had intercepted an Iranian F-4 in the region.

It also remains unclear why the Pentagon chose to involve the jet in its first combat action. Mayville cast the decission to use the Raptor as driven by “the effects we wanted to see on the target areas and what platforms in the region would be best suited to do that.”

“We had a large menu of targets to strike form and then we chose from there,” Mayville said. “So really it’s less the platform than the effects we seek, and then what platform can deliver those effects.”

What were those effects?

One possibility is that the F-22 was needed to protect US and allied planes, including Jordanian F-16s, from any air adversaries — specifically the forces of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. In theory, Assad’s forces could have seen a large aviation force moving in and moved to intercept.

A second theory posits that the F-22 was needed to go in and take out the remains of Assad’s air defense system in IS-controlled territory. The Syrian defense system has been cast by Pentagon leadership as highly advanced, and was cited as a reason US forces could not launch raids on the Assad regime in the early days of the Syrian civil war.

It is also possible the F-22 had an electronic warfare mission to perform ahead of the main fleet of fighters and bombers, again perhaps tied to the remnants of the air defense system.

A simpler answer also on the table: the Pentagon is taking the bubble wrap off the F-22. The jet is stationed in strategic areas around the world for a reason, and while the service has held back on using them, that thought process may have changed.

The Air Force undoubtedly is happy to have the chance to learn from using the F-22 in actual combat operations. But the jet has been used around the world in non-combat operations, and the service has begun laying the groundwork for an eventual Raptor replacement, with a target date of 2018 for the start of an acquisition program.

“We’re at that point that we need to be thinking about replacement for capabilities we have today, because 15-20 years from now the F-22 will be 30 years old,” Col. Tom Coglitore, air superiority core function team chief at Air Combat Command, told Defense News. “These platforms are sometimes pulling 8 or 9 Gs a couple times a day. We stress the heck out of them.” ■



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И онда ће опет да се диче ''комбат прувен''. Иди бегај...

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One possibility is that the F-22 was needed to protect US and allied planes, including Jordanian F-16s, from any air adversaries — specifically the forces of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. In theory, Assad’s forces could have seen a large aviation force moving in and moved to intercept.

A second theory posits that the F-22 was needed to go in and take out the remains of Assad’s air defense system in IS-controlled territory. The Syrian defense system has been cast by Pentagon leadership as highly advanced, and was cited as a reason US forces could not launch raids on the Assad regime in the early days of the Syrian civil war.

It is also possible the F-22 had an electronic warfare mission to perform ahead of the main fleet of fighters and bombers, again perhaps tied to the remnants of the air defense system.


Mnogo stvari je mutno ovde.

1. F-22 je poslat da zaštiti druge avione od napada lovaca sirijskog RV.

Ovo još ima smisla mada je malo verovatno da bi Sirijci poslali išta. Samo bi gubili avione a napad definitivno ne bi bio usmeren protiv njih.

2. Uništavanje Sirijskih sredstava PVO.

F-22 nema apsolutno nijedan sistem oružija namenjen ovome. SDB mogu imati glave sa termovizijskim i radarskim navodjenjem u verziji SDB II ali koji nišanski kontejner F-22 poseduje da bi naveo ove bombe i da bi znao šta gadja sa velike visine i daljine? Jasno je da je za ovakvo nešto potrebno integrisati HARM ili imati detaljne informacije o lokaciji ciljeva sa nekog drugog izvora.

3. EW misija sa stelt avionom?

Ovo mi tek zvuči kao totalna nebuloza. Drugo koje sisteme F-22 poseduje za ovako nešto?
Sopstveni radar. Ograničen u frekventnom opsegu i prostornom uglu. Ovo je misija za F-18G definitivno. F-22 ovaj sistem može koristiti za samozaštitu.

Ne znam zašto je zanemarena glavna funkcija ovog aviona u A2G modu.
Mislim da je F-22 iskorišćen upravo kao F-117 nekada. Stelt mu omogućava da se lako provuče kroz sirijski sistem vazdušnog osmatranja i da izvede udar po fiksnim ciljevima gde su obaveštajci nanjušili da ima vrednih meta. Takodje meta nema nikakve informacije da će napad uslediti pa je iznenadjenje veće.

Poslednja rečenica je značajna. Za 15 do 20 god ti avioni će imati 30 godina a zbog posebne stelt oplate pitanje je kako će se nositi sa korozijom i zamorom materijala. Obzirom na ciklus razvoja koji danas traje 15 godina treba mu odmah razvijati naslednika.

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У УН су обавестили Сирију о нападу на ИД и Асад је подржао такву акцију. Зато прича о ловачкој заштити не пије воду. Самим тим и приче о дејству на ПВО и електронском ометању.

Главна мисија је удар на снаге ИД.

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Jednostavno im se moglo da ga isprobaju a nisu hteli da vuku B-2. Možda nisu bili sigurni da li mogu da veruju Siriji u smislu da neko iz službe bez znanja Asada uzbuni ciljeve. Ovako su ispoštovali najavu a sad ko je lupio nikog nije baš briga. To je samo umetnički dojam za njih.
A nekad nije loše imati i visoke osene za isti. Ko zna kad će zatrebati u nekoj raspravi ili glasanju u Kongresu.

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Да су Сиријци којим случајем оборили неки Ф-22 до сада то би дало повод за напад на ову државу тј. њене оружане снаге.

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Nije samo testiranje aviona u pitanju vec i pravdanje troskova. Imaju ih skoro 200 a do sad nisu nigde korisceni.

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Povratak sa misije koju su imali iznad Sirije




Citat:A U.S Air Force KC-10 Extender refuels an F-22 Raptor fighter aircraft after strike operations in Syria, Sept. 23, 2014. These aircraft were part of a large coalition strike package that was the first to strike ISIL targets in Syria. (U.S. Air Force photo by Maj. Jefferson S. Heiland)

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