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E to mi je posebno zanimljivo i takodje cudno .Zato je Poljak prvo pisao da je to mozda prvi serijski avion za VKS.Jos nesto tu cudno ima u vezi sa Sirijom .Ako je Bort 511 zaista dobio taj reg. broj zbog angazovanja u Siriji ( mada sad ispada da je to dobio posle ) , zasto nemamo sliku drugog prototipa sa takvim brojem a koji je bio tamo .Cak sta vise ,postoje izvori koji navode da je tamo bilo i 4 prototipa mada mi je to sumnjivo ,pre 2 ili 3 .No mi ne videsmo nijednog sa civil reg. brojem sem onog sa RF-81775 tj navodno 511 plavi .
To oko menjanja raznih delova na avionima je u redu ali da prototipu iz druge probne faze zamene prednju radarsku antenu i konus te stave konus bez antene sa pito-cevi mi je bas interesantno .
Sta je Poljak napisao za njega :
Citat:T-50-11 511
In March 2018 number 511 removed and replaced by state registration
RF-81775.In March 2018 prototype T-50-11 was rebuilded (new fins, Pitot probe, but still no OLS), gets state registration RF-81775 and “Russian Air Force” (BBC) on tail. Inner surfaces of tails are showed only schematic, due to lack of photos.
Ovaj izvor navodi baziranje 4 Su-57 u Hmejmimu tokom feb. ,cak i neku novu takt nuklearnu KR tipa H-50 ???
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Ko zna ,mozda nas ovi zaista iznenade uskoro nekom novom `raketlom` kao sto su sa Kinzhalom na 31-ci .
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 19 Apr 2018 21:30
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Mozda je 511 bio random avion koji je dobio registarsku oznaku.
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Poslao: 19 Apr 2018 21:48
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Mozda,upadljivo je da on od pocetka nema pravi OLS-50 vec samo model .
Evo i njegove foto -kolekcije na FB
Su-57 bort 511
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Poslao: 20 Apr 2018 09:19
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ray ban11 ::
Ovaj izvor navodi baziranje 4 Su-57 u Hmejmimu tokom feb. ,cak i neku novu takt nuklearnu KR tipa H-50 ???
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Ko zna ,mozda nas ovi zaista iznenade uskoro nekom novom `raketlom` kao sto su sa Kinzhalom na 31-ci .
Debka je poznat sajt po lupetanju.
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Poslao: 20 Apr 2018 12:41
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Ovi samo pisu foto dana i nista drugo.A avion je bez borta i ima pito cev.E sad koji je ovaj?
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Poslao: 20 Apr 2018 16:18
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Indija se povukla iz projekta
India withdraws from FGFA project, leaving Russia to go it alone
Citat:-India has pulled out of its 11-year collaborative programme with Russia to build a Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft
-The decision has ramifications for both the IAF and the Russian aerospace industry
Citat:The Indian Air Force (IAF) has shelved its 11-year old collaborative Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) programme with Russia following enduring differences over its developmental cost and technological capabilities.
Senior Indian officials, including National Security Adviser Ajit Doval and Defence Secretary Sanjay Mitra, recently informed a visiting Russian ministerial delegation that India was withdrawing from the programme, official sources told Jane’s on 20 April.
The Indian officials are believed to have stated that the IAF could, at a later date, ‘revisit’ the FGFA project or alternatively acquire the fully developed platform once it had been inducted into the Russian Air Force, but did not elaborate.
Industry officials said the FGFA project, in which India’s state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) was the lead developmental agency, also did not feature in talks during Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman’s visit to Moscow in early April.
“The FGFA project had become an instance of too little, too late,” said military analyst and retired air marshal V K Bhatia. To pursue it any longer would not have served the IAF interests in any way as it struggles to make up fast-depleting fighter numbers, he added.
The IAF believes that the Sukhoi Su-57 (T-50 PAK-FA) fighter, which India’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) designated the Perspective Multi-Role Fighter, does not meet its requirements for stealth, combat avionics, radars and sensors. Seven FGFA prototypes are currently undergoing flight-testing in Russia, but for now there is no indication as to when the platform is likely to enter series production.
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Citat:Russia said the PAK-FA met its needs, but the India Air Force (IAF) wanted a better fighter. So HAL and Sukhoi negotiated an $8.63-billion deal to improve the PAK-FA with the IAF’s requirements of stealth (near-invisibility to radar), super-cruise (supersonic cruising speed), networking (real-time digital links with other battlefield systems) and airborne radar with world-beating range. In all, the IAF demanded some 50 improvements to the PAK-FA, including 360-degree radar and more powerful engines.
Defence ministry sources who played a direct role in negotiations with Russia say much of this money was earmarked for Indian production facilities for manufacturing 127 FGFAs, and for India’s work share in developing advanced avionics for the fighter. It also included the cost of four PAK-FA prototypes for IAF test pilots to fly.
Now, the IAF has backed away from the FGFA because it argues the PAK-FA — which Sukhoi has been test-flying since January 2010 — is not stealthy enough for a fifth-generation combat aircraft.
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Poslao: 20 Apr 2018 17:17
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Nista cudno vec nekoliko meseci po njihovim forumima pise da je projekat mrtav, prioriteti su avioni koji sad vec lete a ne projekat koji ce mozda biti spreman posle 2025, eventualno ce mozda kupiti odredjen broj T-50 kasnije.
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