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SAAB JAS-39 Gripen

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Da ponovimo da je Gripen verovatno najjeftiniji za letenje, cas letenja je oko 2500-2700 dolara.



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x9 ::bas tako menjaju se sklopovi,radi brze izmene dela,brze popravke,kraceg zadrzavanja na stajanci,itd.ali uvej je jeftinije izmeniti pokvareni deo,nego ceo sklop u kojem je pokvareni deo.svedjani furaju svugde taj njihov modularni sistem.u auto industriji,avio,informatichkoj,itd.
znachi nije da sada ja tvrdim skupo,ali je u svakom sluchaju skuplji,plus si zavistan na isporuku celih modula


Ista stvar vazi i za ostale moderne avione. Trend u svetu je da se ide na modularne sisteme. Mislim da je tako i kod Rusa. A kada se pogleda koliko deru po usima za bilo kakav servis (koliko smo mi platili puki remont MiG-29) jasno je da ni kod Rusa ne mozes proci nesto jeftinije, cak bih rekao da su i skuplji i da kod njih vazi ona stara "sto ne platis na mostu platis na cupriji".



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Za 4 godine sluzenja u Českoj nikog jos nisam cuo il negdje citao da se zali na nedostatak rezervnih djelova il sistem remonta aviona i popravki.

Sa poravke Gripena:


I jel neko zna za sta sluze oni metalni krugovi oko točkova stajnog trapa?Ovu foru jos nisam skontao ,mada je cesta i stara, npr . ista fora tokom 90tih. na Mig-23.

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Citat:I jel neko zna za sta sluze oni metalni krugovi oko točkova stajnog trapa?Ovu foru jos nisam skontao ,mada je cesta i stara, npr . ista fora tokom 90tih. na Mig-23.

Možda da nebi imali probleme sa pacovima Smile

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Hm...Malo pocudna ideja Very Happy Ja bi rekao da je to radi toga da na njih nesija sunce ili da nedode do mehanickih povreda tockova ako odu kakva kolica slucajno na njih il tako nesto.Zaista nekuzim ovu foru sa limovima.

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Malo sam se šalio ali kad sam počeo razmišljat o tome moguče je da su to stavili upravo zbog pacova:

Citat:Ten airplanes cannot fly
Tuesday, December 18, 2007
Mice grounded Polish F-16s



Polish F-16s grounded by mice? Armed forces deny it but the fact is that 10 machines are not able to fly.

A field mouse has nibbled through cables of the most fearsome weapon of Polish Air Force - a mighty fighter F-16, stationed in Krzesiny near Poznań. An informer of "dziennik.pl" claims that at least one machine is grounded but 10 of them cannot fly. The Air Force confirms that the airplanes cannot fly but it does not want to admit that the cause is a mice sabotage.

Our informer assures us that something has nibbled through electrical cables of at least one airplane. "Everyone is certain that these were the mice. But the armed forces will deny it to the very end because this would discredit them. Every real soldier knows that there are problems with animals in every army unit. This is an ordinary element of the army's life" - tells us an officer from the Krzysiny base.

He adds that the mice problem has been known for a long time. The worst situation is at the beginning of winter when flocks of mice leave the fields and hide in hangars. The soldiers have been trying many things, like wrapping the cables with tapes soaked in substances deterring the rodents. Purchase of anti-rodent means, even the ordinary mice traps, has been shrouded in secrecy.

Damage of cables by mice is quite probable because I have seen many such cases in my career" - confirms COL Andrzej Wąsiewicz, responsible for introduction of F-16s to Polish Air Force. "I used to remove nests of birds and wasps from aircrafts. There were even snakes in pilot cabins in Asia" - he describes. But he has not heard about mice in Krzesiny though.

COL Wiesław Grzegorzewski from department of national defense admits in conversation with dziennik.pl that 10 F-16 aircrafts are grounded. "Several of them are waiting for the spare parts, and several others have to have their engines tested because those machines have crossed the acceleration limits of 9Gs during flight" - explains the colonel.

But he denies that mice have been the cause of any breakdown. "This is a gossip, a very attractive one for the media, but only a gossip" - assures Grzegorzewski.

COL Cezary Siemion from MoD, asked about mice, has a short answer: "This is a gossip, which already went around all Polish Armed Forces." Even the Minister of National Defence Bogdan Klich is already familiar with the matter.

Poland has bought altogether 48 F-16 fighters - 36 one seat version F-16C Block52+ and 12 two-seat F-16D Block52+.

Magdalena Rubaj

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Šveđani rade na upgrade-u starog trenažnog SAAB-105 kako bi bio kompatibilan sa Gripenom - radi se o novom paketu opreme koji bi se ugrađivao u već postojeće vazduhoplove (švedska ih poseduje 106 komada) čime bi im se produžio vek upotrebe....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/09/21/33.....ripen.html

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Ron Jeremy ::Šveđani rade na upgrade-u starog trenažnog SAAB-105 kako bi bio kompatibilan sa Gripenom - radi se o novom paketu opreme koji bi se ugrađivao u već postojeće vazduhoplove (švedska ih poseduje 106 komada) čime bi im se produžio vek upotrebe....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/09/21/33.....ripen.html



Bas ovi bili prije mozda 2 sedmice u AFB Česlav gdje su stacionirani i nasi Gripeni.

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A kako šveđani većinu tih stvari uspiju sami napraviti ? mislim relativno malo stanovika imaju,istina bogati su mnogo mnogo,i prirodnim bogatstvima itd,ali opet stvarno su za zemlju sa toliko stanovnika prepuni jedne od najboljih vojnih tehnologija danasnjice ? jel tu tradicija neka u pitanju ili sto ? iznenadio sam se kad vidim koliko toga rade,a ono sto rade to je sam svjetski vrh a ne neka bijedna kvaliteta...jel vojna industrija svedske kao i saab vecinom u drzavne firme ili privatne ? pa uspjesni su jbg ga ,ja sam u zivotu pricao sam mnogo Svedana medutim ni jedan o vojski nije imao POJMA....uopce to tamo nije neka top tema,tako da s njima prakticki ni ne mozes bas nesto pricati o takvim stvarima,ne znam kakva su iskustva nekih od vas koji tamo zive ali eto to su moja iskustva,cim pocnem pricati o vojsci odmah sam im dosadan...ali im se stvarno divim covjece,stvarno su vrh.

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Tradicija je u pitanju. Oni su bas ona drzava za koju bi se moglo rec isto sto je i ona poslovica : "tiha voda bregove nosi" Very Happy

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