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Kristian_KG ::Erdan da li racunate na mig-31?
Zato što mu dogfight (pa i sa distance) ne bi bio primarni zadatak. Iz istog razloga ne treba računati na F-15E.
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 27 Feb 2012 19:44
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Ranxerox ::Mada Bi Rusima PARE tako trebale, da ubrzaju rad na PAKFA, ali rujke definitivno moraju u sledeće dve godine da naprave barem još jedan moderan visokokapacitetan pogon za sklapanje borbenih letilica, jer sa ovim kapacitetima, nema šanse da mogu u rokovima koje su zadali da naprave i za sebe i za kupce koji su već platili avione, i šta sad i da im kina naruči 60kom SU35(neverujem da bi bilo manje)kada, za koje vreme, gde, ....a
Pogon nije problem. Suhoj ima baš nove fabrike. Problem su kapaciteti proizvođača delova, posebno elektronike.
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Poslao: 27 Feb 2012 20:20
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Ima ih vise ,UOMZ,Ruskaja Avionika, Aviaavtomatika ...
Evo jos ponesto o tome
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/su-35bm-avionics.htm
Evo da imamo ovo od Kopa
Citat:The new Su-35S Flanker is the most comprehensive redesign of the T-10 Flanker series of fighters
since the introduction of this family of aircraft during the 1980s. Described by a senior US analyst as
“far deeper design changes than seen with the F-15E”, the Su-35S incorporates almost completely
new systems, propulsion and some fundamental aerodynamic and structural design changes. With the
Russian Air Force ordering 48 aircraft in 2009, and a major export marketing campaign, the Su-35S is
expected to open new markets for Russia’s aerospace industry, as well as supplant Su-30MK series
fighters in the fleets of existing operators
http://www.ausairpower.net/DT-Su-35S-Flanker-March-2010.pdf
i od Fomina
Citat:The Sukhoi company pins its near future at the global fighter market on the
advent of the Su-35 super-manoeuvrable multirole fighter – a heavily upgraded
Flanker-family member intended to fill the gap between various today’s versions of
the Su-30MK fighter and a fifth-generation fighter whose deliveries might kick off in
the later 2010s. “The Su-35 is a Generation 4++ aircraft embodying numerous Gen.
5 technologies. They ensure the Su-35’s superiority over all other Gen. 4 fighters
under development throughout the world. During 2009–2015, the cutting-edge
technologies will make the Su-35 superior to all future multifunction fighters on
the global market”, Sukhoi officials say. The plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur is now
building three Su-35 prototypes the first of which is due to kick off its flight trials
as early as this summer. What kind of aircraft is the latest fighter and how does it
differ from the Su-27 and Su-30 that are all the rage nowadays
http://www.sukhoi.org/files/su_news_29-08-07_eng.pdf
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Poslao: 27 Feb 2012 21:35
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Koliko kapiram, sve firme su ruske, na Su-37 je cini mi se bila francuska elektronika.
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Poslao: 27 Feb 2012 21:44
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Simonov ::^^
Koliko kapiram, sve firme su ruske, na Su-37 je cini mi se bila francuska elektronika.
Jeste .Na 711 ( 344 plavi ) je bila ugradjena francuska avionika ,moguce firme Sextant Avionics( sada Thales).
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Poslao: 27 Feb 2012 22:33
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su47berkut ::Simonov ::Kolega Bekut licno poznaje M. Pogosjana, pa bih ga zamolio da ga pita sta znaci to novo obelezavanje-CRNI BORT.
Мислим да је повезевано са ВКО односно нова боја је због тога пошто ће имати посебну и значајну улогу у допуни за обезбеђивање ваздупног простора односно служиће као пресретач и ти авиони ће бити са новим бортовима. Колико сам сватио стрица,видеће мо дал ће се нешто мењеати пошто има и информације да неће бити тих црних бортова.
A gde ti stric radi ako nije tajna?
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ray ban11 ::Simonov ::^^
Koliko kapiram, sve firme su ruske, na Su-37 je cini mi se bila francuska elektronika.
Jeste .Na 711 ( 344 plavi ) je bila ugradjena francuska avionika ,moguce firme Sextant Avionics( sada Thales).
Koji ti je taj 344 plavi?
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Poslao: 27 Feb 2012 22:52
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@ Simonov
na nekim aero mitinzima suske su dobijale posebne brojeve na sebi..
su-37 je imao broj 344
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USAF general o F-15 vs F-22 i drugi pilot o borbi sa F-22 i koja vam je sansa za kill
Citat:Here is a transcript of Carlisle's remarks:
"They [the F-22s] always start defensive as you might imagine because anything else is kind of a waste of gas. So the F-22 always start defensive. On rare occasions the F-22 guy -- first of all, the [F-15] Eagle guy, you have to fly a perfect lag fight (flight?). You have to have AIM-9X and JHMCS [joint helmet mounted cueing system] to get an off-boresight IR [infrared] capability. And the F-22 guy has to put up his power a nanosecond too early and not use his countermeasures and you may get a fleeting, one nanosecond AIM-9X shot, and that's about it."
Citat:
Here's what he said:
"We've been fighting the Raptor and getting our butts kicked, and you know the only chance you have against the Raptor is when he's in the turn and he's coming around the corner -- and you have an inexperienced guy because the experienced guys know not to get there -- but the inexperienced guy has got -- and this is, no [shoot], 28-degrees-per-second turn rate at 20,000 feet. The F-15 has an instantaneous [turn rate] of 21 [degrees] and a sustained [turn rate] of about 15-20 degrees. The Raptor can sustain 28 degrees. Some of these young guys, that's not enough for them. They want more than that! So they come around the corner, and, here you are in your Eagle, just hoping that he gets scared and ... [the F-22 pilot] pulls to the point where he's going post-stall manoeuvring. Once he goes post-stall, the airplane stops moving around the centre of lift on the wing and it goes around the centre of gravity up by the nose because it goes on just thrust, and the ass-end drops down, and the airplane will rotate like this. Well, in the Eagle, or in the [F-16] Viper, when you see that, you immediately go vertical because you know he's not going to be able to go up with you, and you have one fleeting opportunity against the Raptor and that's it."
Yes, that's it. Consider this your F-22 dogfight survival guide, although you will probably still be dead.
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2012.....-exac.html
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