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Nabavka novih sistema PVO za vojsku Srbije

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Gledah jutros nesto slicno ovom vozilu u emisiji Dozvolite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O7PUf96Yp0&feature=related
2:20min kao i na 5:20min
Zna li se koje su ovo rakete?

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Pa sistem RL-2 sa raketama R-60.

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Zixo me je pretekao.

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Ma ne to nego ono cudo sa topovima i raketama, znam da je ono Bofors i RL-2 ili 4 (sad saznah da je 2 nisam toliko bas corav ili glup) mislim na ono vozilo pored RL-2 sa topovima i raketama
Ono pored vucnih topova GS-23 (valjda su to 23mm)

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BOV-3 sa raketama Strela 2M

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To ti je BOV-3 sa automatskim topovina od 20 mm (M55A4M1) i raketama z-v Strela-2

http://www.vojaskimuzej.si/zbirke/orozjaList.aspx?item=3&exp=156

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Pa sad na ovolikoj rezoluciji sam uspeo da vidim i treci top i to da je ovo Strela 2M, a onde se skoro nista i nevidi ko da su mu stavili dve cevke za vodu i 50mm cevke od kanalizacije,
Hvala Aramis s i Jazbar.

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BOV sa strelama 2m

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Mislim da je baterija aster raketa oko 300-350 mio usd , Finci su odluku o nabavci 4 baterije NASAMS 2 u uk.vrednosti od 345 mio usd umesto 1 baterije ASTER obrazlozili da su uzeli 4 volvoa umesto 1 kadilaka.
Takodje mislim da je rafal oko 80-90 mio usd.

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Europe
Aster 15: $27 Million (Generation 10) - France, Italy, UK
Aster 30: $34 Million (Generaton 10) - France, Italy, UK
ROLAND: $12 Million (Generation 7) - France, Germany, UK
ROLAND 2: $15 Million (Generation 7) - France, Germany, UK
ROLAND 3: $17 Million (Generation 8 ) - France, Germany, UK
ROLAND VT1: $24 Million (Generation 9) - France, Germany, UK
MEADS: $70 Million (Generation 10) - Germany/Italy/USA

United Kingdom
Sea Dart: $11 Million (Generation 7) - UK
Block 2 VL Seawolf: $15 Million (Generation 7) - UK
Rapier FSC: $20 Million (Generation 9) - UK
Starstreak HVM: $25 Million (Generation 9) - UK
ADC4I: $32 Million (Generation 10) - UK

United States of America
MIM-23 "Hawk": $50 Million (Generation 6) -
MIM-23B "I-Hawk": $55 Million (Generation 7) -
MIM-23J "Hawk": $60 Million (Generation 9) -
MIM-72 "Chaparral FAADS": $8 Million (Generation 7) -
MIM-104 "Patriot PAC-2": $100 Million (Generation 9) -
MIM-104 "Patriot PAC-3": $150 Million (Generation 9) -

USSR
SA-2 "GUIDELINE" (S-75): $30 Million (Generation 6) -
SA-3 "GOA" (S-125): $35 Million (Generation 6) -
SA-4 "GANEF" (Krug): $45 Million (Generation 6) -
SA-5 "GAMMON" (S-200): $60 Million (Generation 6) -
SA-6 "GAINFUL" (Kub): $25 Million (Generation 7) -
SA-8 "GECKO" (Osa): $8 Million (Generation 7) -
SA-9 "GASKIN" (Strela-1): $5 Million (Generation 6) -
SA-10 "GRUMBLE" (S-300): $65 Million (Generation 8 ) -
SA-10A" GRUMBLE" (S-300P): $75 Million (Generation 8 )-
SA-11 "GADFLY" (BUK-M1): $60 Million (Generation 8 ) -
SA-12A "GLADIATOR" (S-300V): $85 Million (Generation 9) -
SA-13 "GOPHER" (Strela-10): $11 Million (Generation 7) -
SA-15 "GAUNTLET" (Tor-M1): $30 Million (Generation 9)
SA-17 "GRIZZLY" (BUK-M2): $70 Million (Generation 9)
SA-19A "GRISOM" (Tunguska): $11 Million (Generation 9) -

Russia
Antey-2500 (S-300VM): $130 Million (Generation 9) -
SA-10B "GRUMBLE" (S-300PS): $80 Million (Generation 8 )-
SA-10C "GRUMBLE" (S-300PMU): $100 Million (Generation 9)- China
SA-10D "GRUMBLE" (S-300PMU1): $115 Million (Generation 9)
SA-10E "GRUMBLE" (S-300PMU2): $125 Million (Generation 10)
SA-19B "GRISOM" (Tunguska-M1): $17 Million (Generation 9)
SA-19C "GRISOM" (Pantsir-S1): $18 Million (Generation 9)
SA-19D "GRISOM" (Pantsir-S1-O): $20 Million (Generation 9)
SA-20 "Triumf" (S-400): $200 Million (Generation 10) -
Sosna-R: $22.5 Million (Generation 9)

China
FT-2000: $130 Million (Generation 9) -
HQ-9A: $130 Million (Generation 9) -
KS-1: $40 Million (Generation 7) -
HQ-2: $18 Million (Generation 6) -
HQ-2A: $20 Million (Generation 6) -
HQ-2B: $24 Million (Generation 7) -
HQ-61A: $9 Million (Generation 7) -
HQ-7: $10 Million (Generation 7) -
LY-60: $14 Million (Generation 8 ) -
FM-90: $17 Million (Generation 9) -
PL-9D: $12 Million (Generation 9) -

France
Crotale: $8 Million (Generation 7) -

Sweden
Bamse RBS23: $25 Million (Generation 10)

Germany
M78 HAWK: $50 Million (Generation 6)
M78 "Improved" HAWK: $57 Million (Generation 8 )
Ozelot: $10 Million (Generation 9)

Italy
Aspide Mk1: $30 Million (Generation 6) -
Aspide Mk2: $42 Million (Generation 7) -
Aspide Mk3: $50 Million (Generation 8 ) -

Canada
ADATS: $15 Million (Generation 8 ) -

Norway
NASAMS: $55 Million (Generation 9) - USA
HAWK-AMRAAM: $45 Million (Generation 9) - USA

Japan
Type-81 SAM-1J: $18 Million (Generation 8 ) -
Type-91 SAM-2J: $25 Million (Generation 9) -
Type-93 SAM-3J: $30 Million (Generation 9) -

Romania
TABC-79/SA-9: $8 Million (Generation 8 )
TABC-79/SA-13: $11 Million (Generation 8 )

South Korea
Chun-Ma (Pegasus) KSAM: $17 Million (Generation 8 ) -
SAM-X: $120 Million (Generation 9)
M-SAM: $65 Million (Generation 9) -

India
Akash: $45 Million(Generation 7)

Israel
Spyder: $34 Million (Generation 9)

Serbia and Montenegro
Sava: $11 Million (Generation 8 )

Belarus
SA-8 OSA 1T: $15 Million (Generation 9)
SA-3 Pechora 2T: $30 Million (Generation 8 )

Taiwan
Sky Bow-I: $55 Million (Generation 8 )
Sky Bow-II: $105 Million (Generation 9)

Iran
Shahab-Thaqeb: $12 Million (Generation 7)


Anti-Ballistic Missile System

United States
Spartan: $140 Million (Generation 7) - USA
Sprint: $130 Million (Generation 7) - USA
THAAD: $200 Million (Generation 9) - USA
GBI: $2 Billion (Generation 10) - USA - Each system includes 50 missiles
ABM YAL-1A: $1 Billion (Generation 10) - USA

USSR
V-1000: $150 Million (Generation 5)
ABM-1: $175 Million (Generation 6)
ABM-3: $230 Million (Generation 8 )
ABM-4: $250 Million (Generation 9)

Israel
Arrow - 1: $150 Million (Generation 8 ) - USA
Arrow - 2: $180 Million (Generation 9) - USA


Unique Anti Air Defence Systems

United States
THEL: $500 Million (Generation 10) - Israel


evo me opet... na sta obratiti paznju...

1. aster uopste nije skup, ako su podaci tacni, cini mise da ipak ima neka zackoljica, jer se radi o najsavremenijem sistemu.
2. meads nije skup, ali nije ni gotov, a po svemu sudeci ce biti prilicno efikasan
3. patriot pac-3 je prilicno skup u poredjenju sa ruskim raketama, ali pruza i velik borbeni komplet 4x4, tj. 16 raketa po lanseru
4. buk m2 je prilicno skup, ali jos uvek trecina cene s400 ili polovina s300pmu2.
5. tor nije jeftin, isplativiji su tunguska i pancir
6. rbs-23 bamse nije skup, ali isti komentar kao za aster
7. italijanski aspide je jako skup
8. spyder 35 mil $, nasams/amraam 45/55 mil $, prilicno skupi, ali jeftiniji od buk-a, uz veci domet spyder-a, mada nije jasno koja raketa ide u ovu cenu. cak i sa derby, cena sigurno nije dvostruko veca. nasams ima nesto manji domet
9. adats nije skup, a omogucava i dejstvo protiv tenkova, mada je malo mator

prema ovim podacima, itekako treba razmisliti i o ne-ruskim sistemima.

imaj u vidu da ne mozemo samo na osnovu ubacenog podatka na wikipediji da eto s300 ima lpi, odbacimo mogucnost da i drugi sistemi otprilike iste generacije ili noviji nemaju lpi. mozda se jednostavno ne navodi kao lpi. licno mislim da svaki noviji sistem, prema tabeli generacije 8, 9 i vise ima lpi ili bar neki vid otezavanja otkrivanja (uzak snop, mali bocni signali, sirok dijapazon frekvencija itd.[/quote]"

Ja sam pricao prema Sebabovim podacima.Ne verujem da Aster30 kosta 300miliona,kosta sigurno manje od S300.

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