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Poslao: 12 Jan 2010 22:49
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bozo13 ::Lepo si definirao šta znači posada i komandovanje.
POkazalo se, u Arapsko-izraelkim ratovima šta znače posade, komandovanje... a i mnogima drugima...
Inače svako radi/kupuje tenk, koji misli da mu treba/da zadovoljava njihove potrebe o okvirima finansiske mogučnosti.
LPB
Nije to tako baš prosto. To me podsjeća na "birala birka, izabrala Mirka". Ja ovdje pitam za Štoru, a ne za Arape i Izraelce!
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 12 Jan 2010 22:55
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Po meni najbolji način da zezneš moderni tenk je s dobrom podkalibarnom municijiom.
Mislim da se štora pali kada otkrije lasersko zračenje i onda počne da ga ometa. A moraš da ispališ laser da bi odredio daljinu do cilja ili kada navodiš raketu.
Za rakete vođenje kablom, ne znam kako bi se pokazao, jer za svaki meru, postoji kontramera...
E sada za taj kineski ometač...to već spada u protivelektronska sredstva...
[Link mogu videti samo ulogovani korisnici]
Shtora (Russian: Штора, ‘curtain’) is a Russian electro-optical active protection suite for tanks, designed to disrupt the laser target designation and rangefinders of incoming anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs).
The system is mounted on the Russian T-80 and T-90 series tanks, the Ukrainian T-84, and the Serbian M-84AB1.
Shtora-1 is an electro-optical jammer that jams the enemy's semiautomatic command to line of sight (SACLOS) antitank guided missiles, laser rangefinders and target designators. Shtora-1 is actually a soft-kill, or passive-countermeasure system. It is most effective when used together with a hard-kill system such as the Arena active countermeasures system. The system was shown fitted to a Russian main battle tank during the International Defense Exposition, held in Abu Dhabi in 1995. The first known application of the system is the Russian T-90 main battle tank, which entered service in the Russian Army in 1993.
The Shtora-1 is an electro-optical countermeasure system comprising four key components, the electro-optical/IR "dazzlers" interface station one each mounted to the left right of the main gun, which includes a jammer, modulator, and control panel, a bank of forward-firing grenade dischargers mounted on either side of the turret, which are capable of firing grenades dispensing an aerosol smoke screen opaque in infrared, a laser warning system with precision and coarse heads, and a control system comprising control panel, microprocessor, and manual screen-laying panel. This processes the information from the sensors and activates the aerosol screen-laying system. Two infrared lights, one on each side of the main gun, continuously emit coded pulsed-infrared jamming when an incoming ATGM has been detected. Shtora-1 has a field of view of 360 degrees horizontally and –5 to +25 degrees in elevation. It contains twelve aerosol screen launchers and weighs 400 kg. The screening aerosol takes less than three seconds to form and lasts about twenty seconds. The screen-laying range is from 50 to 70 meters. It is also believed that the Shtora system can also locate the point where the threat originated from and plot a firing solution for the main gun, so that the tank crew can return fire. Shtora-1 can operated in fully automatic or semi-automatic modes and has capability to operate continuously for six hours against ATGM attack.
Dopuna: 12 Jan 2010 22:55
Dejstvo štore u drugom delu videa, pre toga je Arena.
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Poslao: 12 Jan 2010 22:56
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Ovo za laser si dobro rekao. I ova kombinacija Štore i Arene nije loša. Za ovo kinesko rešenje sam samo jednom naišao i više nikad. Vjerovatno i ne postoji.
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Poslao: 12 Jan 2010 23:08
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Pogledajte ovo od 0:32
Ovu merkavu su navodno oderali sa Ruskim AT sistemom METIS-M,koja je to snaga...zamisli ti koji ti sok za ove u tenku kad te to pogodi,koji je to pritisak čovječe.
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Poslao: 13 Jan 2010 00:12
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Hahaha Štora je pogotovo uspešna noću!
Meni tenkovi na platformi T-72 ne deluju nešto! Nije sve da okačiš ERU i gotova stvar a ono ispod kao nema veze!?
Svi ćekamo T-95!
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Poslao: 13 Jan 2010 00:18
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Kakve ima veze s dobom dana?
Ja za sada kažem da je po meni T-90, jedan od najboljih...
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Poslao: 13 Jan 2010 00:30
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Dejan84 ::Čim su onog T-90 pogodila 7 RPG, teško da je imo pešadijsku podršku.
To je zbog toga sto je informacija naduvana ili izmisljena...7 projektila...i kamen je projektil/cvrc
Citat:T-90
Cena
Unit cost $2.23 million -Jeftini
Weight 46.5 tonnes (45.8 LT; 51.3 ST) - Lakši
Crew 3 - Manje ljudi
Operational
range 550 km (340 mi)
T-90
1.Cena-znaci da je opremljen slabijim komponentama
2.Tezina-znaci slabije oklopljen i losiji smestaj municije
3.Posada-auto-punjac sporiji od punioca i sistem zahteva poseban polozaj cevi za punjenje sto zahteva nove parametre za cilj.
Vidim ja da je tebi naj bitnije da je tenk made in Rusia....a sve ostalo nije toliko bitno.
Dok se rusima ne upali sijalica i dalje ce njihovim tenkovima leteti kupola pri najmanjem ostecenju...ko' cep od sampanjca.
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Poslao: 13 Jan 2010 00:35
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Dejan84 ::Kakve ima veze s dobom dana?
Ja za sada kažem da je po meni T-90, jedan od najboljih...
Kako da nema, ona dva Otshu-1-7 ometaća žaru ko novogodišnje drvce.
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