|
Please read everything I wrote before you get angry and reply just out of spite or to "defend" something.
mean_machine ::USAF didnt had amraam in 1980' and AIM-9M was their best missile up to XXI centry.
So? They had other missiles, like the AIM-7 Sparrow and several improvements of it until they introduced the AMRAAM. And yes, the Americans used the 9M for a long time, what did China use when they introduced the AIM-9L and AIM-7M? But as I said, the Russians had the R-73 which is much better (even the 9M is better) than this Chinese modernization of the AA-2 Atoll.
Citat:
We can say USAF didnt had color display in cockpit of their fighters in 1980's.
Irrelevant. Installing a 27inch LCDisplay in a Mig-17 won't make it any better.  The same way, replacing the displays in a F-22 with old instruments won't make the plane any worse, it will still be the best fighter aircraft around.
What I mean to say is:
Advancements in the development of specialized technology and engineering are one thing, the integration of things that are part of the general evolution of technology are another, LCDisplays fall under the second category. They just were not around back then, technologically, while they are readily available today.
The important thing is that the airplane is good and matches todays airplanes from the rest of the world. And the J-10 does not provide anything that the rest of the world didn't already have 30 years ago when China was still "modernizing" the Mig-19 and tried to make it into a "cheaper Mig-21", like they did 10 years ago when they were trying to make some outdated aircraft like the Mig-21 copy J-7 into "a cheap F-16A", 5 years ago when they tried to make a poor man's "cheap F-16C" or today when they try to make a "cheap F-16 Block 52" (introduced in 1991, for those who don't know how old that plane already is), and all of that with foreign engines...sorry, but the world has moved on, the F-16A is not relevant anymore, and neither are the first versions of the Mig-29, Mig-21bis, some early Su-27 or any planes from the early 90s. If the J-10 had come out in 1982 we might have been impressed, but it's 2011 and counting, by the time the J-10B comes out, the F-22 will have been in active service for 10 years, and what, I am supposed to be nice and act impressed because of their early 90s fighter which is 20 years late to the party as not to offend them?
That is just usual propaganda for the Chinese (and Pakistani) internal use, to tell their own people how great they are and that they match "insert big name of foreign system, but don't pay attention to the fact that that system has been improved 5 times since and isn't produced anymore in the way that you have now managed to match". We had an authoritarian dictatorship as well, we know how the song goes, we, too, have had the best in the world/as good as the best in the world of everything. 
I don't know why we from outside China should pay any attention to their internal-propaganda fairytales and why we should pretend to be impressed and amazed at "their accomplishments". I don't have to be nice to "China", I don't care if "China" gets sad because I state the obvious. That is just the way it is.
Leonardo ::@mareCar
You are claiming something that isn't true. J-10B's definitely '90 and beyond technology.
The B is not in service, yet. When it has entered service in a few years, we can talk about whether China has arrived in the 1990s or not.
Citat:When compared to 3rd (4th) generation fighter jets with some new features like delta-canard configuration, DSI air intake
Those mean nothing. Those are just buzzwords, they don't actually make the plane any more technologically potent or advanced. This is just a continuation of the same talk as improvements on Mig-21s by installing a few LCD displays etc..
Citat:if I'm not wrong stealthier two-piece bubble canopy... The airplane carries its load outside, stealthy does not exist.
Citat:It remains to be seen when will they finish AESA radar and also bring out version with composite materials.
No one even knows if the radar is even AESA or PESA.
And people, don't get me wrong (as you always do), I have nothing against Chinese hardware or advancement (obviously any of the newer planes would be incredible for the Serbian Air Force), but touting every little step the Chinese make as if it is some sort of achievement is like watching a race and cheering for the retarded guy with leg braces who is 2 laps behind everyone like he is winning the race just because he has just completed his first round. It can only be done out of pity. I will wait with the cheering until they deserve it, so that it can be honest.
archer ::Smorili ste sa engleskim.
Dabome.
lacko ::archer ::Smorili ste sa engleskim.
Ispade ovim pakistancima j10 i jf17 daleko nadmocniji od f22 i f35,kako su krenuli  
Sad ce ovoj Mig-21 na steroidima da naprave kockast nos i da nam pricaju bajke kako je postao stealth... 
|
